[Non/Future-nation] Alliance of Periphery (Israel, Turkey)

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[Non/Future-nation] Alliance of Periphery (Israel, Turkey)

Postby icehawk308 » Mon 29 Dec 2014 14:53

Daydreaming about the what could have been/ can be in a potential Wargame 4. Since there is likely at least a year+ of a hiatus between Wargames this food for thought is here to nourish the soul.

In an updated fashion, the Alliance of the Periphery (AoP)
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The Arab–Israeli conflict was seen for many decades as primarily a conflict between Arab states and Israel, rather than a pan-Islamic one. Thus, nations such as Turkey and Iran, which were considered rivals of Arab states for regional dominance, were steadily cultivated by the Israeli government, which sought broader acceptance of its legitimate existence and security from nations in the region as well as seeking a window for future communication, negotiations and normalization of ties with Arab states. The goals of the Israeli government coincided with the policies of the Turkish and Iranian governments of the time. Turkey sought integration with the free-market economies and democracies of Europe, and is a member of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) and a candidate for membership in the European Union. The Shah of Iran was a major ally of the United States, which facilitated the dialogue between Israel, Iran and Turkey.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alliance_of_the_periphery

Thus AoP features two powerful neighbours; Turkey and Israel.

First off, the finest kosher fighting force on the planet, the IDF.


Infantry

Sayeret Matkal
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Sayeret Matkal (Hebrew: סיירת מטכ"ל‎, General Staff Reconnaissance Unit) is a special forces unit of the Israel Defense Forces (IDF). First and foremost a field intelligence-gathering unit, conducting deep reconnaissance behind enemy lines to obtain strategic intelligence, Sayeret Matkal is also tasked with counter-terrorism and hostage rescue beyond Israel's borders. The unit is modeled after the British Army's Special Air Service, taking the unit's motto "Who Dares Wins". It is directly subordinate to the IDF's Directorate of Military Intelligence.

The unit is best known for Operation Thunderbolt, commonly known as Operation Entebbe, in which it rescued more than 100 Air France passengers hijacked and flown to Uganda by PFLP-EO terrorists, killing 52 enemy combatants while losing only the assault element commander, Yonatan Netanyahu, and three hostages.

Could be an excellent SAS like copy as mentioned.

Maglan
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Maglan (Hebrew: מגלן. Also known as Unit 212 or Sayeret Maglan) is an Israeli Special Forces unit which specializes in operating behind enemy lines and deep in enemy territory using advanced technologies and weaponry.

The unit's name is derived from the Ibis bird (In Hebrew: Maglan).

The IDF keeps the unit's designated missions a secret and gives no information about it or the operations in which the unit takes part. Maglan has existed since 1986 but became publicly known only in 2006. Very little is known about the unit, only that the force performs top secret operations behind enemy lines, deep within hostile territory. Like Sayeret Matkal, although the operators in the unit wear a red beret and brown combat boots and conduct basic training at one of the paratroopers' bases, they are not part of the Paratroop Brigade. Maglan has a 20 months training program (6 months basic training and 14 months specialized combat education), and many of the candidates drop out due to the harsh nature of the program. The training program is known to be one of the toughest in the IDF. Similarly to Sayeret Matkal, Maglan answers to the IDF's General Staff and not to one of its regional commands.

Maglan is a relatively new unit. It is rumored that it was deployed on covert SCUD hunting missions in Iraq during the First Gulf War in 1991.

Would fit rather well as A Kommandosi like western unit.

Givati Brigade
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The Givati Brigade (Hebrew: חֲטִיבַת גִּבְעָתִי, literally "Hill Brigade" or "Highland Brigade" in English) is an infantry brigade of the Israel Defense Forces, and serves as its amphibious force. Givati soldiers are designated by purple berets. The Brigade's symbol is the fox, alluding to Shualei Shimshon (שועלי שמשון, lit. Samson's Foxes), a unit in the 1948 Arab-Israeli War.

The Givati was reestablished as a mechanized infantry brigade and then proceeded on to amphibious warfare in 1983. In 1986 the brigade's purple beret was officially approved. Since 1999 it serves under Israel's Southern Command.

IDF marine force.

Paratrooper Brigade
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The Paratroopers Brigade (Hebrew: חֲטִיבַת הַצַּנְחָנִים, Hativat HaTzanhanim), also known as the 35th Brigade, is a unit of paratroopers within the Israel Defense Forces (IDF), and forms a major part of the Infantry Corps. It has a history of carrying out special forces-style missions dating back to the 1950s.

Service in the Paratroopers is voluntary and requires passing an intense two day tryout. Each year the brigade receives five times more applicants than it can accept. The 7 and a half-month arduous training of the Paratroopers includes fitness training, harsh combat skills, specializing in a wide range of weapons, field craft, long marches with weight, weeks of survival training including navigation and camouflage, helicopter training, jump training, collaboration with other units, and urban warfare. All training reflects the role that the fighters will perform in operations and wartime.

Paratrooper Brigade soldiers wear red berets with the infantry pin, and wear red shoes. Distinct from all other soldiers of the IDF, Paratroopers wear a tunic and belt over the shirt.

The brigade was created at the mid 1950s when the commando Unit 101 was merged with the 890th Battalion (the IDF's Airborne Commando unit) in order to form an elite infantry brigade. The new unit was equipped with the IMI Uzi submachine gun as their primary weapon as it provided light and small automatic fire – essential properties for recon units and commandos.

Uzi wielding para unit. 8-)

Handasah Kravit - Combat Engineers
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Due to lack of flame weapons can serve as a higher vet FIST team. CAR-15 & B300 or Mk19 AGL are potential options. IDF focus on combat engineering might make these shock status :idea:

Miluim (reservists) - FN FAL, RL-83 Blindicide
Raglim 75 (line infantry) - FN FAL, M72 LAW, FN FAL HBAR
Raglim 85 (line infantry) - M16, M72A4, FN MAG
Hativat Givati 80 (shock marines) - Galil AR, RPG-7V, FN MAG
Hativat HaTzanhanim 75 (shock paras, 15men) - Uzi, M72 LAW, FN MAG
Hativat HaTzanhanim 90 (shock paras, 15men) - CAR-15, B300, FN MAG
Sayeret Matkal (elite, SAS setup) - CAR-15 ,B300, Stinger
Sayeret Maglan (elite, scud hunting setup) - Galil SAR, M-47 Super Dragon, PKM
Handasah Kravit 75 (shock?, FIST) - Uzi, RPG-7V
Handasah Kravit 85 (shock?, FIST) - M-16, B300
Redeye Team 75 - Uzi, Redeye
Stinger Team 90 - M-16, Stinger

Weapons:
Uzi SMG
FN FAL
Galil AR
AKM AR (spec ops)
CAR-15
M16A1 (received early with CAR-15s in early 70s)

Galatz Sniper
M89SR

FN FAL HBAR
FN MAG
PKM (spec ops)

AT Weapons:
RL-83 Blindicide
M72 LAW
RPG-7 (Large stocks captured and held as secondary ATW. Rounds produced locally.)
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M47 Dragon ATGM
B300 (early 80s)
SMAW

AA Weapons:
Redeye 1975
Stinger 1993

Mech Transports:

M3 Halftrack + Reservists
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Utilized by IDF till roughly 80s these would make excellent reservist unit. IDF being a conscripted army has a (relatively) large manpower pool. FAL Rifles and Super Bazookas would make sense for this unit.

M113A1 APC 1972
Zelda APC 1982
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Nagmachon Heavy APC 1983-85
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Centurion based heavy APC.
It is often used as an engineering vehicle and a carrier for sappers, although its main role has been to carry infantry.


Achzarit Heavy APC 1988
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Captured T-55 based heavy APC.

Puma Heavy Engineer APC 1991
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1991 Heavy engineer carrier (8man team) later also mounted with FAE Carpet mine clearing system (short range TOS Burratino)

[*]Zelda 2 APC 1994
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[*]Nakpadon Heavy APC 1998
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Centurion based heavy APC.

Motorized:

BTR-152 1968 (Captured a number of those vehicles during the Six Day War from Egypt and Syria.)
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RAM Wheeled APC 1979 (capable of being carried by CH-53 so potential of airborne transport)
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AS-321 Super Frelon 1966
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Bell-205/UH-1D 1968
CH-53 1969
Bell-212/UH-1N 1976
[*]MH-60 (1994)

Support
M107 175mm Heavy LR Artillery 1968
When these guns were outranged by rocket fire from Tyre, they were upgraded with the addition of extended range, full-bore ammunition and new powder supplied by Gerald Bull's Space Research Corporation. This allowed operations over 50 km with increased accuracy. The IDF acquired up to 175 vehicles. In IDF service, the M107 is known as the Romach (spear or lance).

M109 155mm Medium Artillery 1970
M109A1 155mm SPG 1973
M110 203mm Heavy Artillery 1968

M113 81/107mm Mortars 1972+ (with delivery of M113 apcs?)

[*]M270 MLRS 1994 Cluster

M-68/L-33 155mm 1960
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Sholef/ Slammer 155mm 1984-85 (proto)
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Proto Merkava based SPG. auto loading system, 10 sec FCS, 40km range :twisted:

[*]Rascal 155mm 2000 (proto)
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OTF but included here due to the fact that IDF airborne assets lack almost all support assets. Rascal is air transportable @ 20tons and 39cal variant is C-130 capable.

[*]ATMOS2000 155mm 2001 (proto)
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OTF but included here due to the fact that IDF airborne & motor assets lack almost all support assets. Air transportable and wheeled. A shorter barrel Caesar.

Makmat 160mm Heavy Mortar 1966
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Sherman based 160mm Soltam M-66 mortar with close to 10km range 8-)

LAR-160 1983
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IOC 1983 mid range MLRS system

BM-24 1970
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Capture in 67 & 73 these were utilized until late 80s by all accounts

MAR-240 1970
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Sherman based 36 round 240mm luancher using captured & reverse engineered BM-24 rockets. BM-24 HATO spam anyone??? :twisted:

MAR-290 1980
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Centurion and Sherman based 4 round 290mm LR Rocket system. Likely HE missile.

Kilshon 1975
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Ground based Shrike anti radiation missile launcher! Knock out SAMS without risking precious aircraft.

Keres 1980
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Updated variant mounting 3 AGM-78 Standard ARMs.

M163 VADS 1977
Chaparral SR SAM 1973
HAWK SAM 1964
I-HAWK MR SAM 1976
Patriot PAC-2 SAM 1991 - For 1991 Gulf War SCUD defence

ZSU-23-4 Shilka 1976
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60 Captured in 73/82 wars.

TCM 20 SPAAG 1980?
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M3 TCM20 SPAAG 1970?
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Tank
Note: Israel was the first combat user of ERA in tanks starting in late 70s and early 80s, predating even the Soviet Union. As such its Cat C tank forces start off relatively well armoured. Introduction of the Merkava MBT only continues this trend.

60mm Tank Mortars. IDF utilizes turret mounted 60mm mortars on its Merkava and Magach series MBTs. These are utilized in urban warfare due to high elevation and top attack aspect, anti-RPG/ATGM as well as night time illumination and smoke laying. Ingame likely utilized as a slow firing (commander operated) direct fire 60mm gun with 2-3km range. More info here viewtopic.php?f=104&t=50251&start=80#p763369
It has several functions.
It can fire HE, illumination and smoke shells and helps to reduce the consumption of the ammunition of the main gun.
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The idea to integrate a mortar in the Merkava mk.1 resulted of lessons of Yom Kippur War: to enhance the armor capability to fight AT armed infantry; to make it less dependent on the artillery for illumination; to enhance its capability to mark targets for close air support.
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I have a friend who commands a battalion of Merkavas. He has told me that the 60mm mortar is a surprisingly useful weapon and is quite accurate with practice. If you have a company of tanks firing in concert at a target, say an anti-tank team who are in cover behind a fold in the terrain, you can have a really effective and concentrated mortar "stonk" in a very short period of time.
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I think the main reason was to increase self sufficiency. But to understand it, it is necessary to have some historical background.

In the Six-Day War IDF armor was very efficient in its Blitzkrieg style offensive in Sinai. The mechanized infantry was often left behind because it was equipped with M3 half-trucks that were too slow to keep the rhythm of the tanks. The artillery was also left behind while the close support of the air force was massive.

The IDF drew erroneous lessons of this war. Between 1967 and 1973, the build-up of the ground forces focused on new armored divisions with few mechanized infantry to support them. Artillery was also neglected in favor of close air force support.

This trend of build-up was proven erroneous in YKW. The IDF armored companies faced massive quantities of Egyptian infantry armed with ATGMs and RPGs with few mechanized infantry to support the tanks, and often without infantry at all.
The insufficient artillery support was also proven problematic. The IAF could not provide massive close support, because its the planes were denied the freedom of action they had in the previous war by the dense missiles and artillery air defenses with which the enemy was equipped now.

After YKW, the IDF returned to a better proportionated combined forces build-up of its ground forces. But the idea to increase the self sufficiency of the armor platoon was also implemented by integrating this mortar to the tanks.

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/sh ... in-Merkava

12.7mm M2 "Counter Sniper/ Anti-Material Mount (CSAMM)"
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The external 0.5" [caliber, Browning M2 "Ma Deuce" heavy] machine gun, mounted on top of the main gun was linked to the fire control system and can now be fired by electrical actuation under armor. The IDF realized that the 0.5" is more effective in urban warfare.

Slaved to the main gun barrel and its associated fire control, the M2 HMG is utilized as a cost effective gunnery training tool as well as highly useful urban warfare and low intensity conflict weapon. Serving as a precision long range weapon it saves on main gun ammunition and prevents collateral casualties in urban warfare scenarios. In game terms it should serve as a high accuracy HMG with slightly extended ground range to account for the tank FCS. Mounted on almost all IDF tanks depending on model. Later copied by the US army (post 2000+) as the CSAMM.

M48 1964
M48A5 1977
M60A1 1971
Sho't (Centurion) 1963

Sho't Blazer 1979
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Upgraded Centurion with new powerpack & Blazer ERA

Magach 5 1980
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Upgraded M48 w/ Blazer ERA

Magach 6B 1981?
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M60 w/ Blazer ERA. Stat wise close to M60 ERA.

Magach 7 1991
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M60 with Passive Armor and upgraded engine. Stat wise close to Super M60

Tiran 5Sh 1975+?
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Upgraded captured T-55 with 105mm & various improvements. Stat wise close to updated Chinese Type 59s

Tiran 5 Blazer/ Ti-67 1980?
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Updated with Blazer ERA

Tiran 6 1975+
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Upgraded captured T-62 with 105mm & verious imporvements. Stat wise close to updated NK T-62s.

Merkava Mk1 1979
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105mm Indigenous MBT. Similar stat wise to early M1 Abrams.

Merkava Mk2 1983
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Merkava Mk3 1989
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120mm equipped indigenous MBT. Semi automatic loading system.

[*]Merkava Mk3 Baz IOC 1995.
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Interestingly the Spike gun launched ATGM has the IOC of 1992. As such the Mk3 Baz could use it ingame under current timeline setup. With a range of 8km IRL It would be a circa 3km ATGM ingame. :twisted:

Recon

Recon Jeeps
Recon Humvees
Alouette II
OH-58 1975
AML-90 1968

PT-71 (PT-76 Captured) 1971
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PT-71 (Not to be confused with the Soviet PT-71) - Is a PT-76 upgrade built by Nimda Group Ltd., which includes a 90 mm Cockerill tank gun, a new machine gun, a new fire control system, a laser range finder, night vision devices and a 300 hp (224 kW) diesel engine. The only known customers were the Israeli and Indonesian armies.

AMX-13

RBY Recon 1979
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Having a very large and varied and armor focused army there should likely be a recon MBT. It could be an early variant of the Sho't (Centurion), Tiran 4 (captured T-54) or Magach 3 (modernized M-48)

Sayeret Orev/ Orev Givati
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Reconnaissance Anti-Tank Unit of the paratroops. 5 man recon ATGM team, typically trained with man-portable TOW/ MAPATS :) but ingame terms it might be forced as a Dragon ATGM :?

Shayetet 13
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Shayetet 13 (Hebrew: שייטת 13‎, lit. Flotilla 13) is the naval special forces unit of the Israeli Navy, one of the primary special operations units of the Israel Defense Forces. S'13 specializes in sea-to-land incursions, counter-terrorism, sabotage, maritime intelligence gathering, maritime hostage rescue, and boarding. The unit has taken part in almost all of Israel's major wars, as well as other actions. The unit is one of the most secretive in the Israeli military. The details of many missions and identities of active operatives are kept highly classified. The unit is respected as among the best of the world’s special forces, and is often compared to the US Navy SEALs and Britain's Special Boat Service. Unlike many other Israeli Special Forces Units which take men only for their 36-month mandatory service, volunteers for Shayetet 13 must agree to service at least four and a half years (18 months over and above the normal commitment).

Carrying AK-47s :mrgreen: This would be an excellent 10 man recon team

Sayeret Shaldag
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Founded in 1974 by several former Sayeret Matkal veterans, it is the Israeli Air Force's commando unit, specializing in forward air control, aerial & special reconnaissance, and target designation outside of Israel's borders.

Shaldag was founded in 1974, in the aftermath of the Yom Kippur War, by Muki Betzer, a Sayeret Matkal veteran who brought several Matkal veterans with him. Initially operating as a Sayeret Matkal reserve company, it was eventually transferred to the IAF.

Shaldag's mission is to deploy undetected into combat and hostile environments to conduct special reconnaissance, establish assault zones or airfields, while simultaneously conducting air traffic control and commando actions. Shaldag operates from Palmachim Airbase.[1] Shaldag soldiers carry M16 or M4A1 assault rifles fitted with the M203 grenade launcher. For special missions, they carry Glock 17 and 19 9mm series pistols and Mauser SR 82/66 sniper rifles.

Would serve the role of a 2 man sniper team rather well

Sayeret Orev/ Orev Givati (shock, 5-10men) - CAR-15, I-TOW
Shayetet 13 (elite) - AKM, RPG-7V, FN MAG [CQC]
Sayeret Shaldag (elite, 2men) - Galil SAR, M72A4, Galatz Sniper

Vehicles
CJ-5 Tagar with ENTAC or SS.11 ATGM 1964
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M3 Halftrack with SS.11 ATGM 1964
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TOW (1973) /I-TOW/ TOW2 Jeeps
BRDM-2 TOW
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RR Jeeps/ M113s
M728 CEV
M163 CS 1977 (used in urban warfare)
Air defense guns are valuable for suppressing ground targets. The IDF found that M163 Vulcan 20mm anti-aircraft guns were very useful in urban settings because the Vulcan has sufficiently high elevation to target the upper stories of buildings. Secondly, the Vulcan offered a high rate of fire which was very effective in suppressing snipers and intimidating opponents. These views of anti-aircraft weapons were shared by Israel’s opponents as well. As a result of earlier experiences in the Lebanese civil war, standard Syrian tactical doctrine called for employing an anti-aircraft section of ZU-23 23mm cannons with a tank battalion when operating in an urban environment. The Syrians concluded that ZU-23s have a “devastating effect” when employed against the outside walls because they “denude structures with their high rates of fire.” Similarly, the PLO also employed anti-aircraft guns in a ground-support role.

[*]M901 ITV (1993) bought due to end of CW so unlikely

60mm HVMS Heavy Autocannon FSV (Marder 2 analogue)
Mounted in prototype form on the M113
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MAPATS ATGM
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Laser guided upgraded TOW system. Likely sold to China and developed as the HJ-9 system ingame, mounted on the WZ-550. As such its one of the best ATGMs ingame, with 2975m range, 70% ACC & 26 AP. Mounted in IDF service on the M113 & Jeep

Luz-1 SSM 1973 (proto?)
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27km EO guided surface to surface missile. Interestingly could have an HE warhead a long range being a very interesting specialist unit. Technically a precursor of the Gabriel ASHM.

Tamuz (Spike NLOS) ATGM 1981
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Spike NLOS
"Non Line Of Sight" is an ultra long range version of the weapon with a claimed maximum range of up to 25 km (16 mi). It is larger missile with an overall weight of around 70 kg (154 lb 5 oz) and can be launched from the ground or from helicopters. It was developed following lessons learned in the Yom Kippur War which showed a need for a high-precision guided tactical ground-to-ground battlefield missile. Codenamed Tamuz (תמוז), the first variants entered service with the IDF in 1981, though this was not revealed to the public until 2011.In a deal concluded on 6 September 2011, the South Korean government has agreed to purchase an unknown number of Spike NLOS missiles.

1981. 25km G2G fiber optic ATGM :o


Helicopters
MH-53 w/ Nimrod ATGM 1989 (proto)
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The main launch pad for the Nimrod in the Israel Defense Forces helicopter is a modification of a CH-53 helicopter, which is not only due to the relatively large size and heavy missiles Nimrod, but the CH-53 It is a common vehicle for delivery by Israel of special operations teams. The launch vehicle or aircraft can shoot up to 4 Nimrods both single pack.

IOC 1989. With 8 20km ranged ATGMs it would be the longest ranged ATGM ingame :twisted:

AH-1G Cobra 1974
AH-64A Apache 1990 (+AGM114C/F Hellfire)
MD500 Defender (TOW variant)

Aircraft
The famous IAF features a diverse mix of aircraft and capabilities, effectively covering all bases of A2A, Anti Tank, Bomber, Precision strike, SEAD as well as decent anti ship capability. It would be a very effective airborne deck if utilized in such fashion.

Air Superiority

Mirage IIIC "Shahak" 1962
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2x Shafir-2 IR AAM, 1x Matra R.530 SARH AAM

F-15A "Baz" 1976
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4x AIM-7E Sparrow, 4x AIM-9J/P IR AAM

F-15C "Baz" 1981 (no AMRAAMs till 1998)
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4x AIM-7M Sparrow, 4x Python-3 or AIM-9L/M IR AAM

F-15 "Baz Meshopar/ Baz-2000" (“Improved Eagle”) 1995 (proto)
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4x AMRAAM AAM, 4x Python-4 IR AAM.

Anti Tank

Kfir C.2 1978
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4x LAU-61 Rocket pod. (76x Zuni rockets)

A-4N Skyhawk "Ayit" 1973
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2-4x AGM-12 Bullpup

F-16C 1986
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4-6x CBU-87 Cluster

F-4E Kurnass 2000 1987
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6x AGM-65 Maverick

Bomber

Nesher 1972
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5x Napalm

Multi Role

F-4E "Kurnass" 1971
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12x Mk117 Bomb, 2-4x AIM-7E Sparrow SARH AAM

F-16A "Netz" 1980
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2x Mk84 Bombs, 4x AIM-9L/M IR AAM (ala Op Babylon & 82 Beqaa Valley)

F-15D 1982
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2-4x AIM-7F Sparrow SARH AAM, 2x GBU-15 AGM (1982)

SEAD

A-4H Skyhawk "Ayit" 1967
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2x AGM-45 Shrike

F-16B/D "Brakeet" 1981/86 - IAF is a large scale user of the F-16B/D using them as dual seater attack aircraft as well as trainers.
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1986-1988 $2.2 b 'Peace Marble-2' deal; 75x F-16 Block-30 version; incl 24 F-16D; Israeli designation Barak and Brakeet

In May 1989, the IDFAF revealed an F-16D at Hatsor AFB carrying a AGM-78D 'Standard ARM' missile which was used to attack Syrian SA batteries during the Peace of Galilee operation in Lebanon, confirming the suspicion that F-16B/Ds were used in a Wild Weasel role.

2x AGM-78 Standard ARM, 2-4x AIM-9 Sidewinder IR AAM.

Other

F-4E(S) "Kurnass"
Kfir C.1
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Kfir C.7 late-80s
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Prototypes

F-4 IAI Super Phantom (proto)
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A separate Israel Aircraft Industries project was proposed for a PW1120-powered Phantom, and one prototype built. IAI's F-4 "Super Phantom" or F-4-2000, which could exceed Mach 1 without afterburners, was displayed at the 1987 Paris Air Show. McDonnell Douglas scuttled the F-4-2000's development because it equaled the F/A-18C/D in performance and could endanger future F/A-18 sales.

In 1983 BMAC and PW announced they were privately developing a major upgrade program for the F-4. This included an 1100 US gallon centerline CFT with integral front wheel well which Boeing had originally developed in an earlier Navy contract. The CFT was able of carrying 2 medium sized missiles or 4 air-to-ground hard points. By 1984 the electronics line up was solidified and the "Super Phantom" was brought to 1980s standards with the F-16's GEC HUD and Sperry MFD, the F-20's Honeywell INS, and the Westinghouse APG-65/66. The J79 was swapped out for the newer, shorter, lighter and more powerful PW1120 yielding great improvements in T/W, time to climb and sustained turn rate. Boeing put great emphasis on work share agreements and customization with the export partner and received interest from Israel, South Korea, Spain, Turkey and Japan. There was also a solicitation to the Air National Guard.


F-4X (proto)
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Proposed high-performance reconnaissance version with HIAC-1 LOROP camera for Israel developed under the Peace Jack program in conjunction with General Dynamics. Water injection was projected to give the aircraft a top speed in excess of Mach 3 (over 2,000 mph (3,200 km/h) at high altitudes). The water would be contained in a pair of 2,500 US gal (9,600 l) conformal tanks on the sides of the fuselage spine.


[*]IAI Lavi (proto) 1986+
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The IAI Lavi (Hebrew: לביא, "Young Lion") was a single-engined 4th generation fighter developed in Israel in the 1980s. Developed by Israel Aircraft Industries (IAI), the choice to develop the Lavi was controversial, both with the Israeli public due to the enormous associated costs and particularly with the U.S. government due to competition with American fighters on the export market. These issues led to its ultimate cancelation.

The Lavi was planned to be the mainstay of the Israeli Air Force, and considerable export sales for the aircraft had been forecast. The uniqueness of its design was in the combination of a small, aerodynamic, highly maneuverable plane, with sophisticated, software-rich systems, low armed drag, and the ability to carry a large payload at high speed and over long distances.



Navy
Heavily armed missile boats dominate the Israeli navy offering fast strike capabilities. Helicopter and aircraft anti-ship assets also available.

Sa'ar 4 missile boat 1973
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4x Harpoon ASHM, 4-6x Gabriel II ASHM, 2x OTO Merala 76mm gun

Sa'ar 4.5 missile boat 1981
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8x Harpoon ASHM, 32x Barak 1 SAM, Otobreda 76mm gun, 1x Phalanx CIWS

Sa'ar 5 corvette 1993 (stealthy)
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1x Phalanx CIWS, 8x Harpoon ASHM, 64x Barak 1 SAM

Dabur patrol boat 1970
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2x 20mm Oerlikon AC, 2x 50cal HMG, Carl Gustav RR.

Shaldag patrol boat 1989
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Stabilized 25mm AC, 20mm Oerlikon, 2x 50cal HMG

[*]AS 365 Panther Helicopter 1985
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4x AS 15 TT ASHM

F-4E "Kurnass 2000" Anti Ship 1987 (Kurnass 2000 IOC date)
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2x Gabriel III A/S Missiles, 4x AIM-7M Sparrow

A-4E Skyhawk "Ayit" 1982 (Gabriel III A/S IOC date)
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2x Gabriel III A/S Missiles

Further ideas and thoughts appreciated. 8-)
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Re: [Non/Future-included nation] ISRAEL

Postby D-M » Mon 29 Dec 2014 15:05

It's better be strong cause I don't see it being part of any coalition. 8-)
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Re: [Non/Future-included nation] ISRAEL

Postby Killertomato » Mon 29 Dec 2014 15:12

If we're talking Israel prior to ~1995, we gotta have M3 halftracks. They were used for an awful lot of things 'till then.

Also, the M51 Super Sherman wouldn't be too out of place. They stuck around into the early '80s.
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It's better be strong cause I don't see it being part of any coalition. 8-)


They're basically USA lite, with some wacky units like heavy APCs and ground-launched ARMs. As strong as Sweden or any of the east bloc nations at the very least. Stronger if things like Machbet and the Merkava Mk. 3 Baz are included.
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Re: [Non/Future-included nation] ISRAEL

Postby icehawk308 » Mon 29 Dec 2014 15:34

Killertomato wrote:If we're talking Israel prior to ~1995, we gotta have M3 halftracks. They were used for an awful lot of things 'till then.

Also, the M51 Super Sherman wouldn't be too out of place. They stuck around into the early '80s.


Cant get a firm decomissioning of the M3. However they would therefore make an excellent reservist unit. Likely M14 rifles and super bazookas 8-)

Re Super Sherman, while notable in early cold war years, they were deff out of service by the 80s or converted to the support section (see above). Tank wise enough Sh'ots (Centurions) Magach 3,4,5,6 and Tiran 4,5 & 6s were available to tank forces to replace these aging machines. A thought woulod be to have the M-60 Super Sherman with the 60mm HVMS autocannon in the vehicle section. These ended up being sold to Chile in the 80s 8-)

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It's better be strong cause I don't see it being part of any coalition. 8-)


They're basically USA lite, with some wacky units like heavy APCs and ground-launched ARMs. As strong as Sweden or any of the east bloc nations at the very least. Stronger if things like Machbet and the Merkava Mk. 3 Baz are included.


I wouldnt even call them US lite.

Infantry and Rec section bristles with spec ops, IFV/APC secion features multiple heavy armored personell carriers for awesome urban warfare.

Tank section is full to boot, with T-55 upgrades to M48, M60 and Abrams competitors.

Support section is exellent, with heavy MLRS (MAR-240/290), ultra long range M107s, 160mm SP mortars, and ground launched anti-radiation missiles. :o Plus on top of that 1985 autoloaded 10 sec artillery piece (Slammer) :twisted:

Vehicle section can have the 60mm HVMS autocannon (Marder 2 clone) plus the MAPATS (HJ-9 predecessor) :twisted:

Helicopter section is basically Blue Dragons so quite decent.

Aircraft section is Blue Dragon as well, with addition of Shrike & Standard ARM for plenty of SEAD.

Overall its VERY cost effective, varied and deadly mix. An Israeli mechanzed, armored or support deck would be hell to face against.

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Re: [Non/Future-included nation] ISRAEL

Postby Muppet » Mon 29 Dec 2014 16:47

Israel would be so cool:( Wanna slap some Jews :D
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Re: [Non/Future-included nation] ISRAEL

Postby Killertomato » Mon 29 Dec 2014 17:29

Cant get a firm decomissioning of the M3. However they would therefore make an excellent reservist unit. Likely M14 rifles and super bazookas 8-)


They were definitely around into the late '90s.

As for reservists, better give 'em FALs or the same M16/Galils as the regular army, since Israel never used M14s as standard infantry weapons.

Also, you don't have the M113 up there. Israel has two ITF variants- the M113A1 itself and the Zelda with the applique armor. Zelda 2 might fit as a prototype as well.

Re Super Sherman, while notable in early cold war years, they were deff out of service by the 80s or converted to the support section (see above).


The M51 stuck around into the early '80s. Might make for a good HEAT thrower. Could be super accurate because of the French gun. ;)

Infantry and Rec section bristles with spec ops, IFV/APC secion features multiple heavy armored personell carriers for awesome urban warfare.


Spec ops does look more like commonwealth. Not sure how effective heavy APCs actually are, since the only real one in-game is the BTR-T.

Their only real infantry ATGM is that boat anchor the Dragon, too, unless Eugen wants to let them use captured Malyutkas. Spike is OOTF, and there's no MILAN/Fagot/Konkurs. :cry:

Tank section is... well, not bad by any means, but there's no real Abrams equivalent until the Mk.3 or, optimistically, the Mk.2D. The Sho't-Kals and the Magachs should do the job very well, though, and the Mk.3 and the Mk.3 BAZ especially will do the business against all comers. The Mk.3 BAZ should really be one of the best tanks in the game in all aspects save frontal armor- good AP on the shells (23? 22?), top-class acc and stabs, and LAHAT. Like Sweden, only more so.

And the helicopter section is way better than the Blue Dragons'. They have the AH-64. Blackhawks could fit as a prototype unit too.
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Re: [Non/Future-included nation] ISRAEL

Postby icehawk308 » Mon 29 Dec 2014 20:08

Killertomato wrote:
Infantry and Rec section bristles with spec ops, IFV/APC secion features multiple heavy armored personell carriers for awesome urban warfare.


Spec ops does look more like commonwealth. Not sure how effective heavy APCs actually are, since the only real one in-game is the BTR-T.

Their only real infantry ATGM is that boat anchor the Dragon, too, unless Eugen wants to let them use captured Malyutkas. Spike is OOTF, and there's no MILAN/Fagot/Konkurs. :cry:

Tank section is... well, not bad by any means, but there's no real Abrams equivalent until the Mk.3 or, optimistically, the Mk.2D. The Sho't-Kals and the Magachs should do the job very well, though, and the Mk.3 and the Mk.3 BAZ especially will do the business against all comers. The Mk.3 BAZ should really be one of the best tanks in the game in all aspects save frontal armor- good AP on the shells (23? 22?), top-class acc and stabs, and LAHAT. Like Sweden, only more so.

And the helicopter section is way better than the Blue Dragons'. They have the AH-64. Blackhawks could fit as a prototype unit too.


Not necessarily so poor a design. For starters making one of the INF spec ups (say Maglan) a 15 man Kommandosi like unit would go a long way towards viability. B-300/SMAW being available in the 80s with its likely 875m range wound be very welcome as well. IDF preference towards carbines is welcome to the CQB crowd. Heavy IDF preference to multiple machine gun mountings on all tanks and APCs helps in the urban department. While by no means breathtaking, driving with a HAPC into an urban battle rather than simply M113 death boxes is helpful for more than variety. 7 AV on the BTR-T is another story :roll:

While the Inf atgm lack is indeed notable, they do have a TOW variant swarm + MAPATS to make up for it.

Armor section im not worried about. I dont necessarily see rare unicorn units as what make or break a nation. Plenty of modern 105mm tubes with decent AP as well as pretty much all the tanks from the Centurion, Tiran to the Merkava are overarmored or clad in ERA. Again Blue dragons but almost all in ERA or Passive arrays from head to toe :twisted: Very good brawler deck in all likelyhood.

And the support assets oh my. 240mm BM-24 barrage on HATO side? ground launched SEAD strikes?? heaviest mortar in NATO service??? Very wonderful things there :idea:

Overall I would give the support assets an A+ and suspect that the heavy infantry and armor branches, while not being super top of line, will likely be VERY cost effective due to their armoured and MG bristling nature as well. The variety is simply delish

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Re: [Non/Future-included nation] ISRAEL

Postby Banzinou » Mon 29 Dec 2014 23:50

D-M wrote:It's better be strong cause I don't see it being part of any coalition. 8-)


Coalitions ruin the game... :|
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Postby icehawk308 » Tue 30 Dec 2014 00:03

Turkey

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Turkey has a balanced and powerful deck which should serve equally well in all deck types. Somewhat weaker tank tree could be countered with some interesting prototypes. Its other obvious weakness is the complete lack of heavy SAM systems. Nike Ajax/Hercules system is the only one available and theoretically a Hercules GOER could serve as a stopgap, as Eugen tends to give nations having non SP SAMS the mobile version. Numerous Cobras for helicopter section, Airforce and Navy are also strong in numerous assets. An interesting brawler deck :!:

As part of the Alliance of the Periphery [AoP] with Israel, its strong surface fleet, numerous cobra helicopter choices would do well to Boost IDFs somewhat anemic helicopter and motorized decks, and weaker surface fleet assets making a very powerful combination, surpassing or matching the Eurocorps.

[*] Designates OOTF/ Proto

Infantry

Komando Tugayi
The 1st Commando Brigade (Turkish: 1. Komando Tugayı) is a brigade of the Turkish Army, located in Kayseri. Founded as a paratrooper brigade, later it was restructured as a ground force. The 1st Commando Brigade contains special forces teams from other commando brigades like Hakkari Mountain and Commando Brigade. Although formally being a paratrooper brigade Parachuting and para-warfare training is still given in this brigade to every one of its troops, including the special forces Gendarmerie Special Operations Command team within its brigade.

The Brigade was involved in the Turkish invasion of Cyprus, and fought beside airborne commandos (Bolu) and Naval Infantry Brigade (Izmir). It served as a fighting force against the Greek Junta and the Cyprus National Guard. In its efforts the Turkish Army came out victorious in this war.


Amfibi Komando
Amphibious Marine Infantry Brigade Command (Turkish: Amfibi Deniz Piyade Tugay Komutanlığı) also known as Amphibious Commando (Turkish: Amfibi Komando) is the marine corps unit of the Turkish Naval Forces which consists 4,500 men based in Foça near İzmir, three amphibious battalions, an MBT battalion, an artillery battalion, a support battalion and other company-sized units.

Turkish marines

Hakkari Mountain and Commando Brigade 1993
The Hakkari Mountain and Commando Brigade (Turkish: Hakkâri Dağ ve Komando Tugayı), stationed in Hakkâri Province at south-easternmost Turkey, founded as a subunit of the 2nd Commando Brigade in the size of a battalion. With the rise of the Kurdish insurgency, the existing formation has been enlarged from the size of a battalion to a brigade.

The brigade has five commando battalions and an artillery battalion, which are deployed to different districts of Hakkari Province. Main task of this unit is to eliminate the Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK). The unit lost around 700 troops in the clashes with the PKK.


Piyade 75 (line infantry) - G3A7, M72 LAW (HAW-66), MG3
Piyade 90 (line infantry) - G3A7, M72A4 (HAR-66), MG3
Amfibi Komando (shock, marines, 15men) - G3A7, Carl Gustav, I.MG3
Komando Tugayi (elite, spec ops) - G3A7A1, M67 RR, I.MG3
Komando Tugayi 90 (elite, spec ops) - HK33E, Carl Gustav M3, FN Minimi
Komando Hakkari 90 (elite, spec ops mountain inf) - HK33E, Eryx, I.MG3
Alev Silahı (flamethrower team) - G3A7, M9A1 Flamethrower
Tank Avcısı (FIST) - G3A7, Carl Gustav
[*]Tank Avcısı 95 (FIST) - HK33E, Eryx
Manpads Team 85 - G3A7, Redeye
Manpads Team 90 - G3A7, Stinger
ATGM Team - G3A7, Milan ATGM


Weapons:
MP5 SMG
G3A7
HK33E
AKM

MSG90 (PSG-1)
SVD

M60
FN MAG
PKM
MG3
[*?]FN Minimi

AT Weapons:
M20 Super Bazooka
M67 Recoiless Rifle
M72 LAW (HAR-66)
Carl Gustav
Cobra-2000 ATGM 1964
Milan ATGM 1976
[*]Eryx ATGM 1998

AA Weapons:
FIM-43C Redeye 1985
[*]FIM-92C Stinger 1993

Tracked Transports:
M59 APC 1957
M113A1 1965
M113A2 1980
ACV-AAPC 1989
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[*]ACV-AIFV 1992
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Wheeled Transports:
Otokar 1975?
V-150 1974/1992
Condor APC 1982
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[*]BTR-80 1993
[*]Dragoon 1997
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Helicopter Transports:
AB-204 1967
Bell 204/UH-1B 1978
Bell 205 UH-1D 1978
AB-212 Twin Huey 1987
AS-532 Cougar/AS-332 1995
UH-60A 1990+

Logistics

Support
Somewhat weak air defence is offset by powerful artillery and MRL section containing potentially several modern pieces 8-)

M45 Quadmount 1960
M42 Duster 1979

Rapier 1983
Tracked Rapier-1 1986
[*]Rapier-2000 1996
FSC was effectively a new system, although Blindfire was little changed and it could fire both Mk 1 and Mk 2 missiles. The Surveillance radar was removed from the launcher and became a separate element and each launcher now carried eight missiles.

With the missiles increasingly relying on radar guidance since the introduction of Blindfire, it made sense to upgrade the original search radar to something much more modern. This was supplied by the Alenia Marconi "Dagger", a 3D pulse doppler radar with an integrated Cossor Mark 10 IFF system. Dagger is mounted on its own trailer, so the radome on top of the launcher unit was no longer needed. In its place, a much more modern optical tracking system was added. The new tracker used a Stirling-cycle cooler instead of compressed gas bottles. The use of much smaller electronics greatly reduced stack height of the whole launcher, allowing an additional two missiles to be added, for a total of eight.

In operation, the Rapier 2000 is similar to earlier Blindfire-equipped systems. Targets are acquired visually or through the Dagger radar, and then the Blindfire and optical tracker are slewed onto the target. The optical system can be used solely to track the missile, or it can be used for all guidance, like the original Rapier. In either case the engagement is entirely automatic, with no operator guidance needed. The optical system can also be used as a search system, seeking out IR sources, allowing radar-quiet operation.

8-shot optically guided modernized Rapier SAM 8-)

Nike Hercules GOER 1960
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Turkey lacks a heavy SAM system ingame. Nike Ajax/Hercules system is the only one available and theoretically a Hercules GOER could serve as a stopgap, as Eugen tends to give nations having non SP SAMS the mobile version. Quite long range (Patriot like) but lower accuracy as older system.

M52 105mm SPG 1968
[*]M52T 155mm SPG 1994 (modernized with 155mm gun + modern FCS [10sec fire])
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The M52T SPH is fitted with Turkish digital command and fire control system.


M44(T) SPG 1968
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M108 105mm(T?) 1969
M107 175mm SPG 1973
M110A2 203mm SPG 1977

ACV 81mm Mortar 1990
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[*]T-155 Firtina 1998/2001 (licence produced SK K9 Thunder 8-) )
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M270 MLRS 1989
[*]WS-1/T-300 Kasirga 302mm 1998
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[*]ATACMS 1998 :twisted:
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[*]T-122 Sakarya 1995 (modern FCS BM-21)
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TanksTurkey owns a numerous but mostly Cat B/C tank force.

M41 Walker 1959

M48A2
M48A3 1981
M48A5T1 1983
Turkish M48 variant upgraded along similar lines to the M60A1, with an M68 105 mm main gun, passive night vision, M60A1 fire control system and an MTU diesel engine.

M48A5T2 1987
Improved version of the M48A5T1 upgraded along similar lines to the M60A3 with thermal imaging, M60A3 fire control system and a laser rangefinder.


M60A1T 1975
M60A3T 1985

Leopard 1A1 1975
Leopard 1A3 1982

Potential altered timeline upgrade options. Turkey would likely focus on upgrade of its M60 & Leopard 1 MBTs as its M48 force was only recently updated. IRL it several prototypes were offered to the Turkish armed forces, outlined below:

[*]M60 Super (early 80s most in-timeframe)
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The failure of the Super M60 program was likely due to the lack of immediate necessity for such a vehicle. Wealthier M60 operators could afford newer MBTs like the M1 Abrams and Leopard 2, and had little interest in upgrading older tanks in their inventories. Conversely, M60 users among developing countries were generally at odds with only their economic peers, who could not afford to import and operate threat armor that prompted a significant upgrade.

However Turkey is a developing nation in need of an upgraded tank to counter Syrian and Soviet threats :!:

[*]Leopard 1A6
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120mm armed Leo1.

[*]Super M48 1994
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Up armored & upgunned M48.

Most OOTF:
[*]120S/ M60-2000
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This MBT was proposed to possible customers, including Turkey and Egypt, however it received no production orders. The Turkish Army selected the Israeli Sabra upgrade.

Mating of a M1A1 Abrams turret with the M60 chassis.

[*]Sabra Mk.1 MBT 2001
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Israeli M60 upgrade based on the Magach 7


Recon

Turk Gendarmerie
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The Gendarmerie General Command (Turkish: Jandarma Genel Komutanlığı) or Turkish Gendarmerie (Turkish: Türk Jandarması) is a branch of the Turkish Armed Forces responsible for the maintenance of the public order in areas that fall outside the jurisdiction of police forces (generally in rural areas), as well as assuring internal security and general border control along with carrying out other specific duties assigned to it by certain laws and regulations. The Gendarmerie is essentially a governmental armed security and law enforcement force of military nature.

Equipped with wheeled APCs & light arms IRL it would serve well as a 5 man militia recon team.

JÖH
Gendarmerie Special Operations Command (Turkish: Jandarma Özel Harekat Komutanlığı) or shortly as JÖH, is the special operations unit of the Turkish Jandarma (Gendarmerie). It has several missions which includes search and destroy, infiltration and reconnaissance actions. Members of the unit receive extensive training at the Jandarma School at Foça and also from selected Army instructors. All three companies work under the direction of the army regions to which they are assigned, but can also receive tasking from their headquarters in Ankara. The unit is said to have a lot of Counter terrorism experience from its ongoing operations against PKK.

5men spec ops recon team.

Sualtı Taarruz
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Underwater Offence Group Command (Turkish: Sualtı Taarruz Grup Komutanlığı) or Underwater Offence (Turkish: Sualtı Taarruz) simply SAT is one of two special operations units of the Turkish Navy, based in the Foça Naval Base near İzmir, on the Aegean coast of Turkey.

The missions of the Amphibious Assault Su Altı Taarruz (SAT) include the acquisition of military intelligence, amphibious assault, counter-terrorism and VIP protection. They are trained and organized in a similar way to the U.S. Navy Seals who have close training relationships with them.

10 man Seal team

Turk Gendarmerie (rooke, 5-10men) - G3A7, M72 LAW
JÖH (elite, 2man) - HK33E, M72 LAW, MSG90
Sualti Taaruz/SAT (elite, 10men) - CAR-15, Carl Gustav, I.MG3

M8 Greyhound
M24 Chaffee 1950
Tuzla .50cal 1975
V-150 20mm 1977
[*]Otokar Akrep 1994 (with RATAC-S radar)
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Stentor GSR 1988 (can be vehicle (Land Rover) mounted)
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Various jeep/Land Rover scouts

Oh-58 1968

Vehicles
Surprisingly weak section, actually

M150 1975
M150 TOW2 1980
Tuzla 106, Tuzla TOW 1974

AIFV-ATV TOW2 1991
Built and fitted with the Norwegian ALT one-man turret with two TOW ATGWs in the ready to launch position.

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Helicopters

AB-205AS w/ SS.11 ATGM 1972
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AH-1F Cobra 1973
AH-1S Cobra 1981
Eugen has these in their writeup however I can seem to find any information on them. Any additional info would be appreciated.

AH-1W Super Cobra 1990
AH-1P Cobra 1992
[*]A129 Mangusta (1986+) (eventually selected post 2000 but Mangusta international variant available since 86)
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Airforce

Air Superiority

F-102 Delta Dagger 1968
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3/3x AIM-4 Falcon AAM (SARH/IR variants)

F-104S w/ AIM-7E 1975
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2x AIM-7E SARH AAM, 2x AIM-9 IR AAM

F-16C 1987
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2x AIM-7F SARH AAM, 4x AIM-9L/M IR AAM.

Anti Tank

F-100D Super Sabre 1969
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2x AGM-12 AGM

NF-5A 1989/1993 (aircraft/missile delivery date)
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2x AGM-65D Maverick

Bomber

F-100C Super Sabre 1959
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4x Mk77 Napalm

F-5A 1966
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4x Mk83 bomb

Multi Role

F-104G 1980
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2x CRV7 Rocket pod (38x FFAR 70mm), 2x AIM-9J/P IR AAM.

F-4E 1974
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6x Rockeye cluster bomb, 4x AIM-7E SARH AAM

[*]F-16 Bl50/52 1996 (both weapons purchased w/ Blk50)
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4x AIM-120 Amraam, 4x GBU-12 Paveway-2 LGB

SEAD

[*]F-4E "Terminator 2020" 1995-1999 (1994 for HARM AGM)
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4x AGM-88 HARM ARM.
In 2003 the final of the original 54 upgraded "Terminator 2020" Phantoms were delivered. These were optimised for air to ground missions and the upgrade was undertaken by Israeli companies after the Turkish-Israeli defense agreement of 1996.


Other

F-84F
RF-4E

Prototypes

F-4 IAI Super Phantom (proto)
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A separate Israel Aircraft Industries project was proposed for a PW1120-powered Phantom, and one prototype built. IAI's F-4 "Super Phantom" or F-4-2000, which could exceed Mach 1 without afterburners, was displayed at the 1987 Paris Air Show. McDonnell Douglas scuttled the F-4-2000's development because it equaled the F/A-18C/D in performance and could endanger future F/A-18 sales.

In 1983 BMAC and PW announced they were privately developing a major upgrade program for the F-4. This included an 1100 US gallon centerline CFT with integral front wheel well which Boeing had originally developed in an earlier Navy contract. The CFT was able of carrying 2 medium sized missiles or 4 air-to-ground hard points. By 1984 the electronics line up was solidified and the "Super Phantom" was brought to 1980s standards with the F-16's GEC HUD and Sperry MFD, the F-20's Honeywell INS, and the Westinghouse APG-65/66. The J79 was swapped out for the newer, shorter, lighter and more powerful PW1120 yielding great improvements in T/W, time to climb and sustained turn rate. Boeing put great emphasis on work share agreements and customization with the export partner and received interest from Israel, South Korea, Spain, Turkey and Japan. There was also a solicitation to the Air National Guard.


Navy
Strong if dated surface assets and several light ASHM helicopters.

AB-204AS w/ 4x AS.12 Light ASHM 1972
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AB-212ASW w/ 4x Sea Skua Light ASHM 1987
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[*]UH-60L w/ 4x AGM-114K Hellfire or 2x Penguin Light ASHM 1999 (Penguins preferred but denied sale so Turkey purchased AGM-114Ks)
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Gearing FRAM-1 class DD 1971 (sturdy gunboat DD)
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2x2 5in DP guns, 1x8 ASROC (theoretically can fire Harpoon ASHM)

Kartal class fast attack craft 1977
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2x 40mm Bofors AA, 2x4 Penguin Light ASHM

Dogan class (FPB 57 type) missile boats 1977
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1x 76mm DP, 8x Harpoon ASHM, 1x dual 35mm AA

Koln class frigate 1983 (inexpensive gun/flak frigate) 1983
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2x 100mm DP, 2x2 40mm Bofors AA, 2x 40mm Bofors AA.

Yavuz class (MEKO 200 type) frigates 1987
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1x 5in Gun, 8x Harpoon, 1x Sea Sparrow (16 missiles), 3x quad 25mm Sea Zenith CIWS

Tepe/ Knox class frigate 1993
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1x 5in DP, 8x Harpoon ASHM, 1x Phalanx CIWS

Ertugrul (Terrebonne Parish) class large landing ships (supply ships) 1974
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3x 2 3in AA guns. ~2,500 tons supplies.
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Re: [Non/Future-included nation] ISRAEL

Postby 47andrej » Tue 30 Dec 2014 00:10

Pretty cool military hardware. I think Merkava Mk3 BAZ upgrade could fit in our timeline aswell.
And then i would like to see Syria with NK-T-90S-grade export stuff like Kornet launcher.

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