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Re: #MakeAmericaGreatAgain

Postby varis » Sat 5 Aug 2017 18:54

Fade2Gray wrote:I have to admit, that makes for one amusing read.

National Guard vs the real military though? Don't make me laugh. :lol:


Gronank obviously watches a bit too much Star Wars but a part of me would like this to be filmed :D
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Re: #MakeAmericaGreatAgain

Postby Fade2Gray » Sat 5 Aug 2017 21:39

Why is McMaster such a target as of late?

Also....

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wor ... 829df74a66

LOL this is so damn cheesy. Putin's photo ops are truly ridic, but I guess it works over there. Why I can't imagine though.
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Re: #MakeAmericaGreatAgain

Postby Killertomato » Sun 6 Aug 2017 14:49

The army is actually going for an issued 7.62 rifle.

The absolute madmen.
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Re: #MakeAmericaGreatAgain

Postby Shrike » Sun 6 Aug 2017 17:17

Killertomato wrote:The army is actually going for an issued 7.62 rifle.

The absolute madmen.

What will this mean for 5.56 and weapons like the saw? Seems a bit odd since the rest of NATO has finally adopted some form of 5.56 rifle.

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Re: #MakeAmericaGreatAgain

Postby Killertomato » Sun 6 Aug 2017 19:14

Only god knows. Word on the street is that this is GEN milley's personal baby and he refuses to hear anything negative about it.

Combat load is still supposed to be 210 rounds, somehow. RIP knees... even more.
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Re: #MakeAmericaGreatAgain

Postby Fade2Gray » Sun 6 Aug 2017 20:14

Shrike wrote:
Killertomato wrote:The army is actually going for an issued 7.62 rifle.

The absolute madmen.

What will this mean for 5.56 and weapons like the saw? Seems a bit odd since the rest of NATO has finally adopted some form of 5.56 rifle.

I never left the wire with less than 270 rounds myself.

Also, is this for real now or what? The Army has been looking into this for months, and if its official now this is the best birthday present ever. 7.62 is the way forward, especially with the new and "improved" 5.56 round being such a mixed bag.
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Re: #MakeAmericaGreatAgain

Postby Shrike » Sun 6 Aug 2017 22:16

Fade2Gray wrote:I never left the wire with less than 270 rounds myself.

Also, is this for real now or what? The Army has been looking into this for months, and if its official now this is the best birthday present ever. 7.62 is the way forward, especially with the new and "improved" 5.56 round being such a mixed bag.

My friend who is a reservist hates the M249 and M9.

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Re: #MakeAmericaGreatAgain

Postby Killertomato » Mon 7 Aug 2017 07:48

Fade2Gray wrote:.

Also, is this for real now or what? The Army has been looking into this for months, and if its official now this is the best birthday present ever. 7.62 is the way forward, especially with the new and "improved" 5.56 round being such a mixed bag.


It's real, also pointless. 7.62 steel core AP can't penetrate any body armor 5.56 steel core AP can't and tungsten 5.56 can penetrate any armor tungsten 7.62 can.

The range advantage is pointless since almost nobody can take advantage of it and the afghan overmatch comes from PKMs, which will still overmatch a 7.62 rifle.

Shrike wrote:My friend who is a reservist hates the M249 and M9.


This just in: old guns don't work so good.

Frankly, this is a half measure. We need BARs im .30-06 with a rail.
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Re: #MakeAmericaGreatAgain

Postby another505 » Mon 7 Aug 2017 08:27

Killertomato wrote:
Fade2Gray wrote:.

Also, is this for real now or what? The Army has been looking into this for months, and if its official now this is the best birthday present ever. 7.62 is the way forward, especially with the new and "improved" 5.56 round being such a mixed bag.


It's real, also pointless. 7.62 steel core AP can't penetrate any body armor 5.56 steel core AP can't and tungsten 5.56 can penetrate any armor tungsten 7.62 can.

The range advantage is pointless since almost nobody can take advantage of it and the afghan overmatch comes from PKMs, which will still overmatch a 7.62 rifle.

Shrike wrote:My friend who is a reservist hates the M249 and M9.


This just in: old guns don't work so good.

Frankly, this is a half measure. We need BARs im .30-06 with a rail.



Just use .50 beowulf rounds
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Re: #MakeAmericaGreatAgain

Postby Shrike » Mon 7 Aug 2017 09:03

another505 wrote:Just use .50 beowulf rounds
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