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Re: [Non-Included Nation] Republic of China (Taiwan)

Posted: Wed 29 Mar 2017 11:54
by Eiya
On a side note, in the event that the ROC does get added into the game,

A way (probably the best, most accurate and logical way) of differentiating it from the current "China" in the game is to rename the current "China" and associated tags (flags, faction etc) to PRC, so the Republic of China can use the correct and official ROC abbreviation as a tag instead of the more intuitive but controversial, politically, historically and officially incorrect "TW".

Reasons for it being incorrect is due to the political climate and stance of the ROC on Taiwan until the 1990s (especially in the period of 1949 - 1980) was exclusively of the ROC being the legitimate China, instead of the split political identity (Are we Free China or are we our own country) of the late 1980s - today.

An example would be the two Koreas, in-game neither side is tagged as just "KOR", but with their own respective appropriate (NK, ROK) tags.

Re: [Non-Included Nation] Republic of China (Taiwan)

Posted: Fri 31 Mar 2017 21:25
by Fodder
gr8 list, a lot of indigenous vehicles!
Why do u have non self propelled weapons? Also no articulated vehicles.
Otherwise Gr8 list!

Re: [Non-Included Nation] Republic of China (Taiwan)

Posted: Sat 1 Apr 2017 13:36
by Eiya
I included some non-self propelled systems and such since certain systems could reasonably be motorized, some can plausibly be motorized and I really am unsure if actual mounted versions exist or not for some of these (T-82 AA gun etc.)

Just trying to keep all plausible options all on the table!

Re: [Non-Included Nation] Republic of China (Taiwan)

Posted: Sun 2 Apr 2017 03:36
by HrcAk47
Pretty sweet stuff! Before, I thought of ROC as unviable, because of next-to-no tanks whatsoever. While that remains true (I see no tanks worthy more than 50 pts), the rest of the stuff seems more than fun.

This could have been an injection of fun that would have made Blue Dragons actually good. Heck, great even.

Re: [Non-Included Nation] Republic of China (Taiwan)

Posted: Sun 2 Apr 2017 05:18
by Mike
HrcAk47 wrote:Pretty sweet stuff! Before, I thought of ROC as unviable, because of next-to-no tanks whatsoever. While that remains true (I see no tanks worthy more than 50 pts), the rest of the stuff seems more than fun.

This could have been an injection of fun that would have made Blue Dragons actually good. Heck, great even.


Wouldn't the ROC being in game lead to the game being banned in China (PRC)?

Re: [Non-Included Nation] Republic of China (Taiwan)

Posted: Sun 2 Apr 2017 07:15
by Eiya
Mike wrote:Wouldn't the ROC being in game lead to the game being banned in China (PRC)?

Probably, assuming it wasn't even banned already, but actually if it was included in-game as the ROC it probably wouldn't be as likely to be as banned than if you included it as "TW".

Funny politics in action, Chicom is more comfortable with the ROC/Taiwan being acknowledged as Republic of China than as a separate "Taiwan" state.

All in all it's kinda pointless to bother with the censors imo (though I know it's about the $), due to how easy they're triggered anyway

The censors are probably already triggered by the Bear VS Dragon campaign, potential "loss" against the JSDF, USA etc...

EDIT: The fact they included the ROC / Taiwan in the polls last time shows they were prepared to do it if there was community support.
(Hard to achieve with a mostly Western playerbase that has a misconception of our armed forces and our nation itself...)

Re: [Non-Included Nation] Republic of China (Taiwan)

Posted: Sun 2 Apr 2017 07:18
by Eiya
Main list updated with some more info, new pictures and some faulty information removed.

Highlights:
"Possible" command truck removed (turned out to be a water carrier....)

Leiting 2000 OOTF information removed and replaced with appropriate info (Platform mount from 2000+ was being pictured before etc)

Photos for CM-21 APC series (Credits to http://seesaawiki.jp/w/namacha2/)

Additional photos and information for some artillery units

Fire support & command LVTs

Land-based mobile launcher for Hsiung-Feng II added to list

Re: [Non-Included Nation] Republic of China (Taiwan)

Posted: Fri 21 Apr 2017 14:01
by Eiya
Added some boats, WW2-era DD fans rejoice!

More detailed information on armaments and such will be added soon.

EDIT: Some more vehicles added, more images added and overall page streamlined to avoid eye and bandwidth strain