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Bug/Inconsistency Thread.

Postby Narcissistic Black » Tue 4 Oct 2016 22:05

Bare with us on this one EUGEN sometimes we can't tell whats intentional or accidental.
( Other thread from Razzmann : viewtopic.php?f=155&t=57347&hilit=bug+thread )

Before Posting, some Rules.
1. This thread is for Bug and Inconsistency reports only. Do not post Suggestions or balance issues here please.

2. Please, and I can not stress this enough be as specific as possible in what the bug/issue is so that the problem can be acknowledged and I don't want to waste time trying to recreate or verify the actual problem for Eugen.

3.Please don't just post a giant list of bugs full of units and expect me or Eugen for that matter to know exactly what unit you're talking about or which country it belongs to. Be sure to include Nationality and which tab at the very least.

4. For the love of all that is holy don't post a weapon complaint without the unit it belongs to. I would think I have a decent memory of the armory but my god it will never be that good.

URGENT wrote:


Unknown Unknowns.. Things that we don't know that we don't know wrote:The Finnish, East-German and Czech 2S1 Gvozdikas SPGs are available to motorized, while the Soviet, Polish and Yugoslav ones aren't. Not sure which side is in the wrong here.


Global wrote:Tank availbility should be looked at lots of Inconsistencies across the board concerning tank prices. I have posted some but its getting to be to many to fit them all.




BLUFOR

United States of America
Spoiler : :
United States wrote:
Infantry wrote:SMAW When firing on an armored target the animation does this machine gun thing instead of looking like a RPG.


Tanks wrote:M60A2E1 Starship Should be using MGM-51C (Shillelagh-C) Missiles with the introduction date they have.
M60A2E2 Starship Should be using the MGM-51C (Shillelagh-C) Missiles with the introduction date they have.



Planes wrote:F-15D has 40% ECM despite using the same electronics package as the F-15C which has 50%
Extra Notes I'm like 100% this one is intentional I've only put it up here just in case it some how missed your glorious gaze and isn't actually intentional let me know if it is and I'll remove it
F-15D Rounds: Should be 510, not 564.
A-4M Rounds: Cannon should have 400 rounds (200 per gun) rather than 200.
AV-8A Rounds: Total rounds should be 250 rounds, 125 per gun.
AV-8C Rounds: Total rounds should be 250 rounds, 125 per gun.
AV-8B Rounds: Cannon should have only 300 rounds, not 1170. This is the GAU-12/U Equalizer, not the GAU-8/A Avenger.
F-14 Rounds: Should be 675 rather than 752.
F-16A Rounds: Total rounds should be 511 rather than 564.
F-16C Rounds: Total rounds should be 511 rather than 564.
F-16C Block 52 Rounds: Total rounds should be 511 rather than 940.
F/A-18A Rounds: Total rounds should be 578 rather than 564.
F/A-18C Rounds: Total rounds should be 578 rather than 564.



United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland
Spoiler : :
United Kingdom wrote:
Logistics wrote:Chinook HC.1 should be a copy of the US CH-47C as the UK opt'd out of buying the lesser version and bought these instead


Tank wrote:CHALLENGER 1 MK.2 Isnt availibile to Mechanized desipte other tanks priced at 125 points are


recon wrote:SBS Squad leader has M72 LAW on his back when it should be an M2 Carl Gustav
FV101 Scorpion L37 GPMG is stationary when it shouldn't be



Plane wrote:Harrier GR.1 Rounds: Total rounds should be 250 rounds, 125 per gun.
Harrier GR.3 Rounds: Total rounds should be 250 rounds, 125 per gun.
Harrier GR.5 Cannon: Should be twin ADEN 30 cannons and Total rounds should be 250 rounds, 125 per gun.
Harrier GR.7 Rounds: Total rounds should be 250 rounds, 125 per gun.
Sea Harrier FA.2 Rounds: Total rounds should be 250 rounds, 125 per gun.
Sea Harrier FRS.1 Rounds: Total rounds should be 250 rounds, 125 per gun.




Commonwealth of Australia and New Zealand
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Anzac wrote:
[quote"Weapons"]
F88 Austeyr Icon is wrong Magazine is to small should be 5.56 mag not 9mm



[quote"Infantry"]
COMMANDOS '90 F88 Austeyr has better Rof than it should have coimpaired to other Bullpup rifles
[/quote]

Tank wrote:Scorpion 90 Is missing its L37 MG that is mounted on the model but weapon missing


Plane wrote:F-4E Rounds: Should be 640 rounds, not 752.
F/A-18A Rounds: Total rounds should be 578 rather than 564.
Mirage IIIO(F) Rounds: Total rounds should be 250, 125 rounds per gun.
Mirage IIIO(A) Rounds: Total rounds should be 250, 125 rounds per gun.

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French Republic
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France Republic wrote:
Infantry wrote:Sapeurs Flamethrower animation is no showing up.
RESERVISTES MAS 49/56 has bolt action stats when it should have Battlerifle stats


Recon wrote:AMX-10 RC Isn't availbile to Armored desipte the newer AMX-10RC SB and something about french armored doctrine which is what it was made for.


Tanks wrote:AMX-40 availbility should be 0/10/7/0/0 to match other tanks that are the same price


Plane wrote:F-8E(FN) Rounds: Each gun had 125 rounds, and with four guns there should be 500 rounds total.
Mirage F1C Rounds: Cannons have 135 rounds per gun, for a total number of rounds of 270.
Mirage F1C-200 Rounds: Cannons have 135 rounds per gun, for a total number of rounds of 270.
Mirage F1CT Rounds: Cannons have 135 rounds per gun, for a total number of rounds of 270.
Mirage IIIC Rounds: Total rounds should be 250, 125 rounds per gun.
Mirage 5F Rounds: Cannons have 135 rounds per gun, for a total number of rounds of 270.



Federal Republic of Germany
Spoiler : :
Federal Republic of Germany wrote:
Support wrote:FLAKPZ. GEPARD Availibility should match that of the dutch Gepard as they're the same thing
FLAKPZ. GEPARD A1 Availibility should match that of the dutch Gepard as they're about the same thing


Recon wrote:Fernspaher Model Squad leader model isnt carrying the M72 LAW or H&K PSG1


Plane wrote:F-4F Rounds: Should be 640 rounds, not 564.
F-4F KWS Rounds: Should be 640 rounds, not 564.
F-4F Peace Rhine Rounds: Should be 640 rounds, not 564.



Canada
Spoiler : :
Canada wrote:
Recon wrote:REECE C15 LRSW Rifling animation looks like an Machine Gun instead of a Sniper Rifle when firing at vehicles.
PATHFINDERS C2A1 has shock version stats of 40%/20% Acc/Stabs when it should be Elite version with 50%/30% Acc/Stabs



Vehicles wrote:


Helicopter wrote:CH-118 When flying or hovering the stationary rotor still can be seen. when zoomed out a fair bit & if you're not following the unit ans it just flys by on the screen
CH-135 When flying or hovering the stationary rotor still can be seen. when zoomed out a fair bit & if you're not following the unit ans it just flys by on the screen


Plane wrote:CF-104 Rounds: Total ammo should be 725, not 940.
CF-116 Rounds: Each gun had 280 rounds, so the total should be 560.
CF-18 Rounds: Total rounds should be 578 rather than 564.
CF-18 Skin has no air froce markings and is completely plain
CF-188 Rounds: Total rounds should be 578 rather than 564.
CF-188 Skin has no air froce markings and is completely plain



Kingdom of Norway
Spoiler : :
Kingdom of Norway wrote:
Infantry wrote:LHV Carry a AG-3 on their model when it should be a Krag-jorgonson rifle


Support wrote:NM45 Uses the wrong weapon and should be called the MK 20 Rh 202 not the Oerlikon 20.


[quote"Tank"]
M48A5 should have an MG3 (UGBEAR issue, they didn't have this cupola)


Plane wrote:F-104G Rounds: Total ammo should be 725, not 752.
CF-104 Rounds: Total ammo should be 725, not 752.
F-16A Rounds: Total rounds should be 511 rather than 564.
F-16AM Rounds: Total rounds should be 511 rather than 564.



Kingdom of Denmark
Spoiler : :
Kingdom of Denmark wrote:
Infantry wrote:Haer Hjemmevaernet MG3 has 20% accuracy but based on the accuracy of the other classes of infantry shouldn't this be 10%?
FKP Are availible to Support while No other commando unit is allowed into support
FKP have access to MD JUPITER Transport when no other commando infantry have access to 5 point trucks.


Recon wrote:


Plane wrote:F-100D Rounds: Total cannon rounds came to 1200, 300 per gun.
F-16A Block 5 Rounds: Total rounds should be 511 rather than 564.
F-16A Block 15 Rounds: Total rounds should be 511 rather than 564.
F-16A MLU Rounds: Total rounds should be 511 rather than 564.
Starfighter Rounds: Total ammo should be 725, not 752.
CF-104 Rounds: Total ammo should be 725, not 752.



Kingdom of Sweden
Spoiler : :
Kingdom of Sweden wrote:
Logistics wrote:


Infantry wrote:Kustjagare AK4 when hovering over the Weapon identification claims it to be a Assault rifle and not a Battle rifle in armory
Norrlandsjagare '90 Pvpj 1110 m/77 the animation fires like a machine gun thing instead of looking like a RPG



Tanks wrote:STRV 103B Drives on top of water instead of displacing into it. AKA it can into jesus.
STRV 103C Drives on top of water instead of displacing into it. AKA it can into jesus.


Plane wrote:A 32A LANSEN Rounds: War load was 80 rounds per gun, for a total of 320. (Not 300)
A 32A LANSEN Cannons Stabalizers dont match the accuracy
JA 37 Cannon: Should be Oerlikon KCA rather than ADEN; the cannon fires a much heavier 30mm round than the ADEN 30 and total rounds should be 150, not 156.
JAS-39 Gripen Mauser Bk-27 should have 120 rounds (Not 150)



Japan
Spoiler : :
Japan wrote:
Infantry wrote:KUTEI '75 Armory is tripping out and states their accuracy is 80% But in game files says its correct and is what every one else has


Support wrote:TAN-SAM Short Arrow All missiles are removed from the model. it should have 4 like it did in closed beta.
Original Comment which included pictures http://forums.eugensystems.com/viewtopic.php?f=155&t=58396&start=40#p979687


Recon wrote:


Plane wrote:F-1 Rounds: Cannon should have a total of 750 rounds, not 752
F-104J Rounds: Total ammo should be 725, not 752
F-4EJ Rounds: Should be 640 rounds, not 752
F-4EJ Kai Rounds: Should be 640 rounds, not 752
F-86F Cannon: Should be six AN/M3, which fire much faster than the M2 (450-600 for M2, 1200-1300 for AN/M3).
Rounds: Each gun had 267 rounds, for a total of 1602 rounds.




Republic Of Korea
Spoiler : :
Republic Of Korea wrote:
Logistics wrote:K277 JIHWI-CHA Flag on the vehicle is reversed



Infantry wrote:Haebyung Name is incorrect should be named Haebyeong
Haebyung '90 Name is incorrect should be named Haebyeong '90
Haebyung '90 Squad leader has an AT4 on his back when it should be a Pzf-3
Gongbyung Name incorrect should be named Gongbyeong
YEBIGUN M14 has bolt action stats when it should have Battlerifle stats


Support wrote:K-200 Flag on the drivers right side of the vehicle is inverted
K-200 M60 is stationary when it shouldn't be
KAFV 40/50 K4 GMG is much lower RoF than other GMGs
K136 Kooryong Emblem is reversed


Recon wrote:OH-6 South Korea never called it OH-6 .it should be called 500MD



Tank wrote:M48A3K Availability is 2 despite being South Korea's only Cat C Tank. Should be 3
M48A5K Availability is 2 despite being South Korea's only Cat B Tank other than the dated M48A3. both having a max of only 5 front armor. Should be 3
K1 M240 should be an M60
K1A1M240 should be an M60


Helicopter wrote:MD-500 I-TOW Name incorrect should be called 500MD TOW Defender


Planes wrote:A-37B Dragonfly The Flag is upside down
F-86F Saber Flag on the drivers right side of the plane is inverted
F-16C Peace Bridge Roundel is inverted
KF-16C Roundel is inverted
KF-16C Block 52 Roundel is inverted
F-4D Peace Pheasant I NAme is incorrect should be called F-4D Peace Spectator
F-16C Peace Bridge Rounds: Total rounds should be 511 rather than 940.
KF-16C Rounds: Total rounds should be 511 rather than 564
KF-16C Block 52D Rounds: Total rounds should be 511 rather than 564
F-4E Peace Pheasant II Rounds: Should be 640 rounds, not 940.
F-86F Cannon: Should be six AN/M3, which fire much faster than the M2 (450-600 for M2, 1200-1300 for AN/M3) and Each gun had 267 rounds, for a total of 1602 rounds.



Netherlands
Spoiler : :
Netherlands wrote:
Logistics wrote:Staf EenheidModel is missing radio on the infantry back.


Support wrote:CHEETAH PRTL A1 Has lower availability per card than the exact equvilent W-German FLAKPZ GEPARD A1
M752 LANCE Is amphibious In Real life should be reflected in game.
M109A3 Has M109A2 Stats when it should have M109A3 Stats. See other M109A3 for examples.


Recon wrote:M113 C&V 25mm KPA is less accurate than other countries with it should have 30% accuracy (not 25%)
M113 C&V Fuel and Autonamy is inverted should match the Canadian M113 C&R


Vehicles wrote:


Planes wrote:F-104G Rounds: Total ammo should be 725, not 940.
F-16A Block I Rounds: Total rounds should be 511 rather than 940.
F-16A MLU Rounds: Total rounds should be 511 rather than 940.
F-16A Block 5 Rounds: Total rounds should be 511 rather than 940.
F-16A Block 10 Rounds: Total rounds should be 511 rather than 940.
F-16A Block 15OCU Rounds: Total rounds should be 511 rather than 940.
F-84F Cannon: Should be six AN/M3, which fire much faster than the M2 (450-600 for M2, 1200-1300 for AN/M3) and Each gun had 300 rounds, for a total of 1800 rounds.
NF-5A Rounds: Each gun had 280 rounds, so the total should be 560.
NF-5B Cannon: The F-5B (and NF-5B) were not fitted with any cannons.
F-104G using the wrong Sidewinder. The AIM-9L wasn't avaliable in the 60s.
NF-5A using the wrong Sidewinder. The AIM-9L wasn't avaliable in the 60s.




State of Israel
Spoiler : :
State of Israel wrote:
Logistics wrote:Hapak Is missing its radio on the model (They must be be using their telekinetic powers to communicate.


Infantry wrote:Tzanhanim '75 Are carrying a RPG-7V despite that None of pact Shock troops from the era even have this thing equipped. Not even Russia.

Tank wrote:Merkava IIIB Typo in their main gun name. It says "MG151" when IRL it is MG251.
Merkava IIID BAZ Typo in their main gun name. It says "MG151" when IRL it is MG251.
SH'OT KAL didnt recieve the Centurion Accuracy Buffs from 35%/10% to 45%/15%


Vehicle wrote:DJAPAS OREV Autonomy is incorrect and should match the M151A2 which is Fuel 65L and Autonomy 1000km
BTR-152 Is availbile to Airborne dispite other BTR-152 for other countries no being in airborne.


Support wrote:DOHER Typo in its main gun name, saying L47, despite it using an L39 gun.
Sholef Is available to mechanized despite no other modernized 10 second arty is available to mechanized.
MAR-240 Model doesn't carry any rockets. Unlike the BM-24
DRAKON HAs 6 missles on the model. Should have only 4.
BTR-152 TCM should have to reload after every 120 rounds instead of firing indefinitely


Recon wrote:RAM TCM Fires only out of one side of its dual turret. unlike the BTR-152 TCM which uses both.
RAM TCM should have to reload after every 120 rounds instead of firing indefinitely
HVMS Has No HE Shells


Plane wrote:LAVI Drops the wrong bomb model should be MK.83 models instead of MK-82 Griffin models
AyitRounds: The DEFA cannons had 150 rounds each, for a total of 300 rounds.
Kurnass 2000 Rounds: Should be 640 rounds, not 940.
Kurnass Rounds: Should be 640 rounds, not 940.
Ra'am Rounds: Should be 510, not 752.
Netz Rounds: Total rounds should be 511 rather than 564
Barak Rounds: Total rounds should be 511 rather than 564
Barak II Rounds: Total rounds should be 511 rather than 564
Sharak Rounds: Total rounds should be 250, 125 rounds per gun.
Nesher A Rounds: Total rounds should be 250, 125 rounds per gun.
Kfir C.2 Rounds: Total rounds should be 280, 140 rounds per gun.
Kfir C.7 Rounds: Total rounds should be 280, 140 rounds per gun.





REDFOR

Union of Soviet Socialist Republics
Spoiler : :
Union of Soviet Socialist Republics wrote:
Tank wrote:T-72B1 availbility should be 0/10/7/0/0 to match other tanks that are the same price
T-72B availbility should be 0/10/7/0/0 to match other tanks that are the same price


Support wrote:BM-30 Smerch Is availble to motorized whe nall high end cluster MLRS are only locked to support


Helicopter wrote:Mi-24VP Has the wrong gun and should be using the Gsh-23 gun (NOT the Gsh-30K)


Plane wrote:Il-102 Uses the wrong primary weapon and should be the 9A-4071K for its primary weapon, not GSh-2-30
Il-102 Main gun should have 500 rounds, rear should have 60.

MiG-21SMT Primary weapon is missing It should have a GSh-23L
MiG-21SMT GSh-23L should have 200 rounds.



German Democratic Republic
Spoiler : :
German Democratic Republic wrote:
Infantry wrote:FJB-40 Have a Strela 3 Manpaad (with 10% more accuracy than other Strela 3's) despite never operating Strela 3. Should be a Strela 2.
LIECHTE SCHUTZEN Comes in availability 0/12/8/0/0 It should be 0/0/12/8/0 like other shock troops


Recon wrote:Spezialaufkalauer Isn't available to Armored or Support like other 10-man recon teams from other countries such as Rangers, Zwadicy, or Fallskermjagare
Kampfschwimmer Squad leader is missing his RPG-18


Plane wrote:MiG-17PF The PF upgrade removed the N-37 and replaced it with another NR-23. So it should have the NR-23 Cannon
MiG-17PF More NR-23 rounds were added, so total rounds should be 300 (100 per gun)
MiG-21bis Lazur Gsh-23L should have 200 rounds, not 250 rounds
MiG-23BN Gsh-23L should have 200 rounds, not 250 rounds
MiG-23ML Gsh-23L should have 200 rounds, not 250 rounds
Su-22M4 Primary weapon is incorrect and should be twin NR-30 rather than NR-23
Su-22M4P Primary weapon is incorrect and should be twin NR-30 rather than NR-23



Polish People's Republic
Spoiler : :
Polish People's Republic wrote:
Support wrote:RM-70 When firing with the MG it points into the ground unlike other RM-70s from Czech of East Germany.


Helicopter wrote:Mi-2 URS is available to mechanized when it's an AA chopper and shouldn't be. No other AA choppers come in Mechanized


Plane wrote:MiG-21bis Cannon rounds Should be 200, not 250 rounds
MiG-21MF Cannon rounds Should be 200, not 250 rounds
Su-22M4 Cannon: Should be twin NR-30 rather than NR-23.
Su-22M4 Seria Cannon: Should be twin NR-30 rather than NR-23.
Su-22M4 Seria Needs to be renamed to Su-22M4 Seria 30 the way its named now is like calling an F-16C block 52 and F-16C Block
Su-22M4P Cannon: Should be twin NR-30 rather than NR-23.
Su-7B Cannon: Should be twin NR-30 rather than NR-23 and should have 140 rounds (70 per gun)
Su-7BM Cannon: Should be twin NR-30 rather than NR-23 and should have 140 rounds (70 per gun)
Su-7BKL Cannon: Should be twin NR-30 rather than NR-23 and should have 140 rounds (70 per gun)


Naval wrote:Mi-14PL Has some random guy (probably waldo) siting under the helicopter in the armory



Czechoslovak Socialist Republic
Spoiler : :
Czechoslovak Socialist Republic wrote:
Infantry wrote:Vysadkari 90 MG doesn't have the tracer animations when firing the sound is there though.
ZALOZNICI vs.52 has bolt action stats when it should have Battlerifle stats


Recon wrote:Specialni jeonotky '90 MG doesn't have the tracer animations when firing the sound is there though.


Plane wrote:L-39ZA Albatros Is identical to the new Finish HAWK in armament and price, but it's 300 km slower and should get a price buff of -5
Avia S-105 Cannon should be a triple NR-30 group rather than a single NR-30 and Total rounds should be 195, 70 for the two wing guns and 55 for the nose gun, rather than 205.
MiG-21MF-75 Rounds: Should be 200 rather than 250 rounds
MiG-23ML Rounds: Should be 200 rather than 250 rounds
Su-22M4 Cannon: Should be twin NR-30 rather than NR-23



Peoples Republic of China
Spoiler : :
Peoples Republic of China wrote:
Logistics wrote:ZZZ-701 Has the wrong armor value and should be 1/1/1/1 as the vehicle is based from the ZSD-531A/63A vehicles which have 1/1/1/1 armor


Infantry wrote:Lu Zahndui Is overpriced compaired to other infantry with exact same loadouts and should be 15 points not 20
Li Jian Type 64 SMG has more suppression than it should have right now it matches assualt rifles when the round is smaller then the assualt rifle ammo
Li Jian '90 Type 85 SMG has more suppression than it should have right now it matches assualt rifles when the round is smaller then the assualt rifle ammo also it has 45%/45% Acc/Stabs when it should be 40%/40%


Support wrote:PHZ-70 Drives on top of water instead of displacing into it. AKA it can into jesus.


Vehicles wrote:ZZC-55 should have medium stealth like other recon vehicle transports.
BJ212 PWL78 Is using the wrong weapon according too the model. It should be using a Type-75 105mm RR
ZSD-90 is 15 points, while the GDR BMP-2,TH-495 are at 20 points too. Therefore it should be moved up to 20 as well as they're all about the same proformance


Helicopter wrote:Z-5 (Transport) Has empty racks on the sides of it for like no reason. It could be sharing the Command Z-5 model that doesn't have racks.


Plane wrote:J-7C Should have 20% ECM just like the MiG-23MF as it is also equipped with a RWR & Chaff dispenser
J-7H Has the wrong cannon it should have type-30-I 30mm cannon
J-8C PL-11 has the same seeker as the HQ-61A and there for should have the same Accuracy as the missile which is the same missile made into an AA variant which is 60% accuracy.

J-5 Cannon: Double NR-23 should be replaced with the Type 23-1 and the N-37 should be the Type 37, their Chinese copies.
J-7C Cannon: Should use the Type 23-III, a copy of the GSh-23L.
J-7H Cannon: Should be twin Type 30-1, a copy of the NR-30, rather than GSh-23L and Total rounds should be 60 (30 per gun) rather than 200.
J-7II Cannon: Should be twin Type 30-1, a copy of the NR-30, rather than GSh-23L and total rounds should be 60 (30 per gun) rather than 200.
J-7IIM Cannon: Should be twin Type 30-1, a copy of the NR-30, rather than GSh-23L and total rounds should be 60 (30 per gun) rather than 200.
J-8IIB Cannon: Should use the Type 23-III, a copy of the GSh-23L, rather than "Twin Type 23".
J-8C Cannon: Should use the Type 23-III, a copy of the GSh-23L, rather than "Twin Type 23".
Q-5I Cannon: Should be twin Type 23-II, a copy of the AM-23, rather than the NR-30. This gun is rather like the NR-23, but faster firing and Total rounds should be 200 (100 per gun) rather than 205.
Q-5IA Cannon: Should be twin Type 23-II, a copy of the AM-23, rather than the NR-30. This gun is rather like the NR-23, but faster firing and Total rounds should be 200 (100 per gun) rather than 205.
Q-5D Cannon: Should be twin Type 23-II, a copy of the AM-23, rather than the NR-30. This gun is rather like the NR-23, but faster firing and Total rounds should be 200 (100 per gun) rather than 205.



Democratic People's Republic of Korea
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Democratic People's Republic of Korea wrote:
Logistics wrote:YW701 Has the wrong armor value and should be 1/1/1/1 as the vehicle is based from the ZSD-531A/63A vehicles which have 1/1/1/1 armor


Infantry wrote:Gongbobyong Type 73 LMG has 30% accuracy but its the same Type 73 LMG that Bochongsu has instead of a shock version with 40% accuracy.


Recon wrote:Jeongchaldae Shouldn't have M76 as it should have the NK made Type 78 Sniper Rifle


Support wrote:Tokchon 130mm Direct fire version of the cannon is using the wrong caliber it should be 130mm (not 122mm)


Tank wrote:Ch'onma-ho V Main gun is called 2A20 which is what the 115mm cannon is called. Needs research into what it should be called because i have no idea.


Vehicle wrote:


Plane wrote:MiG-21Bis Still missing the protoype tag despite being in 1995.
F-7B Availability is 5/4/0/3/0 and not 6/5/4/0/3 like the Chinese J-7II & J-7IIM MiGs
SU-7BMK Cost the same despite being worse than Soviet MiG-21Bis
SU-25K Should have 2 Back armor because of its 1987 year (both many in the field and also all Su-25s built in the factory after 1986)
A-5I Cannon: Should be twin Type 23-II, a copy of the AM-23, rather than the NR-30. This gun is rather like the NR-23, but faster firing and Total rounds should be 200 (100 per gun) rather than 205.
B-5 Cannon: Should be twin Type 23-II, since there are two guns and Total rounds should be 500 (250 per gun).
F-5 Cannon: NR-23 should be replaced with the Type 23-1 and the N-37 should be the Type 37, their Chinese copies.
F-5B Cannon: All cannons should be replaced by triple Type 23-1 cannons (the N-37 was replaced with an NR-23) and Total rounds should be 300 (100 per gun) for the triple Type 23-1.
F-6C Cannon: Should be triple Type 30-1, a copy of the NR-30 and Total rounds should be 195, 70 for the two wing guns and 55 for the nose gun, rather than 205.
F-7B Cannon: Should be twin Type 30-1, a copy of the NR-30, rather than GSh-23L and total rounds should be 60 (30 per gun) rather than 200.
MiG-21bis Rounds: Cannon should have 200 rounds.
MiG-23ML Rounds: Cannon should have 200 rounds, not 250.
Su-7BMK Cannon: Should be twin NR-30 rather than NR-23 and Cannon should have 140 rounds (70 per gun).



Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia
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Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia wrote:

Weapons wrote:M-57A2 caliber should be 90 mm (not 83). Name should also be RB M-57A2
M-90 Stršljen caliber should be 120 mm (not 112). Name should also be RRB M-90 Stršljen
"LRAC F1" caliber should be 90 mm (not 84mm). Name should also be RRB M-79 Osa
"M72 LAW" caliber should be 64 mm (not 66 mm). name should also be RRB M-80 Zolja Extra CommentsThere is discussions of people saying it should be closer to RPG-18 in stats
M-80A should use 5.56mm caliber (not 5.45mm)
M-82A LMG should use 5.56mm caliber (not 5.45mm)
Automat M-85 should use 5.56mm caliber (not 5.45mm)


Logistics wrote:KOM. ODELJENJE Has access to helicopter transport while in Support Desipte other Command Infantry Not having heli transports in those catagories


Infantry wrote:MORNARICKA PES M-70AB2 icon is wrong and should have a folding stock not a fixed one, Also its missing its folding stock stats
PROLETERI sshould be Cat C 1980 as all their weapons where availible in 1980 (Not 1975)
PROLETERI '90 M-80A icon is wrong and should have a folding stock not a fixed one, Also its missing its folding stock stats
PADOBRANCI '90 Automat m-85 has older carbine stats instead of the new stats.


Tank wrote:M-47 PATON Is using an M36 gun when the model has an M32 gun
PT-76B Has wrong availbility and should match the polish one as it's an exact copy


Recon wrote:HI-45 HERA 2 has too high availability compared to other similar armed recon helos like the Danish Scout Defender


Support wrote:SO-155 Nora-B is missing its Smoke rounds
SVLR M-94 Plamen-S Is availble to motorized whe nall high end cluster MLRS are only locked to support
RSPVO Strela-10 isn't Availible to Motorized or Airborne unlike other Strela-10 vehicles of the exact same thing.
RSPVO M90 SAVA isn't Availible to Motorized or Airborne unlike other Strela-10 vehicles but this one is a 1991 prototype balance at your own discression as I can't tell if intentional or bug.
RSPVO Neva M1 shouldn't be a prototype as its from 1982.


Vehicle wrote:OT TAB 71 doesn't displace in water glides over it like jesus.
OT M-60 PB M2 BROWNING is now stationary when it shouldn't be
LT-M80A POLO Is missing its defencive MG that is modeled on the vehicle


Helicopter wrote:HN-42M GAMA 2 Is not availble to Mechanized despite French Gazelles and Chinese attack helicopters gazelles being in it
HN-42M GAMA 2 Didnt get its IGLA-1 replaced with IGLA as the manpaad did.
HT-40 NRZ 128 Missiles should be called M74 Munja instead of Plamen A
HT-40 is availbile to all decks when all other transport Mi-8 helicopters are restricted to Airborne & Motorized for other countries


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Weapons wrote:Kk 62 (Light Machine gun) should be called KvKK 62


Logistics wrote:T-72 KOPA Turret is misalligned with chasses


Infantry wrote:RASKASSINKORYHMA HAs the wrog availibility and should match the identical
PstOhj 84M HAs access to BMP 1 & BMP 2 when no other ATGM team has acess to those vehicles
PstOhj 94 HAs access to BMP 1 & BMP 2 when no other ATGM team has acess to those vehicles
ITO 78 HAs access to BMP 1 & BMP 2 when no other AA team has acess to those vehicles
ITO 78 Uses a militia version of M/39 weapon instead of line version (which I have no comparision because line troops don't get bolt actions usually..but the reservist have the same stats.)
ITO 86M Unit is carrying AK-74 o nthe model instead of its M/39 (which the wrong weapon anyways)
ITO 86M HAs access to BMP 1 & BMP 2 when no other AA team has acess to those vehicles
RAINNIKKOJAAKARI Squad leader carries a RPK when it should be a Kk 62
RAINNIKKOJAAKARI '90 Squad leader carries a Kk 62 when it should be a RPK
JAAKARI '90 Name should be JAAKARI '85 as their service date is 1985 and they're avaibile to Cat B Decks


Tank wrote:T-72M1 on the left side is missing the inducer wheel


Support wrote:RAKH 76 Cost 75 points despite being extremely similar to the Chinese PHL-81 which is 80 points
TELAK 91 is availbile to Mechanized when it shouldn't be because other 10 second Arty isnt.


Recon wrote:Erikoisrajjaakari Sqaud leader model is carrying an RPK when he should be carrying an Jatimatic SMG


Vehicle wrote:BMP-1 isn't priced correctly with other BMP-1s and should be 15 points (Like the "RDA" SPz BMP-1 SP-1)
XA-185KT Shouldn't be amphibious as the turret make it to heavy


Helicopter wrote:Mi-8P is availbile to all decks when all other transport Mi-8 helicopters are restricted to Airborne & Motorized
for other countries

MI-8T KT Has either much better Accuracy or RoF compaired to other helicopters with autocannons. See American UH-60L DAP,British LYNX AH.7 20mm,Chinese Z-9A For examples


Plane wrote:J 35F Can only carry realistically 4 500kg bombs not 8.
J 35F Only drops 3 of its 6 napalm bombs making it have to go for another bombing run. It should be dropping all 6.
AVIA 28 Ingame is missile is barrels on the plane



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Narcissistic Black wrote:HVMS Has No HE Shells

HVMS has no HE by intent. Look at his rpm values! It is worthless against light armor and inf, but absolutely fantastic against mediums. A perfect niche unit.
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Postby Killertomato » Tue 4 Oct 2016 22:11

Borscht wrote:
Narcissistic Black wrote:HVMS Has No HE Shells

HVMS has no HE by intent. Look at his rpm values! It is worthless against light armor and inf, but absolutely fantastic against mediums. A perfect niche unit.


HVMS did have an HE shell IRL.
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Postby Borscht » Tue 4 Oct 2016 22:12

Killertomato wrote:
Borscht wrote:
Narcissistic Black wrote:HVMS Has No HE Shells

HVMS has no HE by intent. Look at his rpm values! It is worthless against light armor and inf, but absolutely fantastic against mediums. A perfect niche unit.


HVMS did have an HE shell IRL.


So you do want a 29rpm HE battlewagon?
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Postby BenKenobi » Tue 4 Oct 2016 22:13

I am not sure if it is actually a bug, but is it possible to classify the infantry-carrying Merkava as a tank and not an IFV? It gets very confusing because of the icon and Merkava's apparent refusal to die in IFV-fashion.

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Narcissistic Black wrote:Machbet M168 Vulcan used the wrong sound effect should be using the Pivads sound.
Extra Concerns Is helicopter range suppose to be that long?
Suggestion Nerf Range down from 2800 heli/2625 planes to 2625 Heli/2450 Planes (Buff by 5 points if you feel the need)

Upgraded fire control systems if I recall that correctly. And please don't take Israels only anti-helo defense away...
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Postby Killertomato » Tue 4 Oct 2016 22:21

Borscht wrote:So you do want a 29rpm HE battlewagon?


No, but is it still firing in one long burst? It should be firing in 3-round bursts with a significant reload time between them, like RARDEN on steroids.
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Paratroopers '90 have the Bren L4 now for some reason. Not sure if it's intentional but it wasn't in the patch notes.
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Postby Narcissistic Black » Tue 4 Oct 2016 22:38

BenKenobi wrote:I am not sure if it is actually a bug, but is it possible to classify the infantry-carrying Merkava as a tank and not an IFV? It gets very confusing because of the icon and Merkava's apparent refusal to die in IFV-fashion.


That Tank does actually have the ability to transport infantry IRL. Neat Right :)

Markenzwieback wrote:
Narcissistic Black wrote:Machbet M168 Vulcan used the wrong sound effect should be using the Pivads sound.
Extra Concerns Is helicopter range suppose to be that long?
Suggestion Nerf Range down from 2800 heli/2625 planes to 2625 Heli/2450 Planes (Buff by 5 points if you feel the need)

Upgraded fire control systems if I recall that correctly. And please don't take Israels only anti-helo defense away...


I don't mind the accuracy improvements but that range is truly pushing it 20mm is only so powerful. Also people have been pushing for the Drakon to be where it should be so I personally think the trade of would be acceptable.

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Borscht wrote:So you do want a 29rpm HE battlewagon?


No, but is it still firing in one long burst? It should be firing in 3-round bursts with a significant reload time between them, like RARDEN on steroids.


+1

Yeah from what I read it seems almost like a really powerful autocannon kind of like the otomatic except it doesn't shoot at planes.

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Borscht wrote:HVMS has no HE by intent. Look at his rpm values! It is worthless against light armor and inf, but absolutely fantastic against mediums. A perfect niche unit.


HVMS did have an HE shell IRL.


So you do want a 29rpm HE battlewagon?


Well why not? the BTR-ZHALO has 19Rpm and it has 3HE also OTOMATIC has HE3 with 60RPM. I was suggesting 2HE heck you could even make it 1.5 but I don't think it having HE would be the end of the world. unless it was like 2.5+ then it would OP.


Mister Maf wrote:Paratroopers '90 have the Bren L4 now for some reason. Not sure if it's intentional but it wasn't in the patch notes.


Good looks. Although if intentional If anyone was getting bren it should be gurkhas not paratroopers.
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Postby BenKenobi » Tue 4 Oct 2016 22:38

Narcissistic Black wrote:
BenKenobi wrote:I am not sure if it is actually a bug, but is it possible to classify the infantry-carrying Merkava as a tank and not an IFV? It gets very confusing because of the icon and Merkava's apparent refusal to die in IFV-fashion.


That Tank does actually have the ability to transport infantry IRL. Neat Right :)

Yes, and it does in game too. But it should not have the IFV icon.

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