Which divisons?

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Re: Which divisons?

Postby Mitchverr » Wed 15 Mar 2017 02:11

[EUG]MadMat wrote:
Mitchverr wrote:Though given that cromwells were only really given to recce forces outside of the 7th armoured and the Czech brigade

Weren't the Czech. the only ones (aside from a few with the commandos) to have Centaurs in Normandy, and not Cromwells?


From what I heard the only versions of the centaur to see action in Normandy were the specialist vehicles such as the 95mm CS version. From what I was told/read, they had cromwell mkIVs VII and VIIIs, fireflys and Sherman OP's and Stuart VI's as their tank force when sent to the Falaise on august 30th when they arrived in France.


Maybe the person was confused between centaur and cromwell due to really the big diff being engine so looking the same but alot of the other stuff i have quick looked at say cromwell too.

Sadly i dont have the funds to buy any books so cant go beyond free material and a quick glance.
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Re: Which divisons?

Postby marecek05 » Wed 15 Mar 2017 14:32

[EUG]MadMat wrote:
Mitchverr wrote:Though given that cromwells were only really given to recce forces outside of the 7th armoured and the Czech brigade

Weren't the Czech. the only ones (aside from a few with the commandos) to have Centaurs in Normandy, and not Cromwells?


From my limited knowledge on the difference between Cromwell and Centaur was missing hull MG on Centaur. The page below contains couple of pictures of member of czechoslovak brigade, with 3rd picture from the bottom and second from the top clearly having hull MG.

Also fireflys and stuarts ;)

http://mujweb.cz/ipro/stripky/vzpominky ... 1489576856

also here>
http://hartmann.valka.cz/udalostiww2/czwestcp/dunkerqu/
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Re: Which divisons?

Postby Scottfitzz » Wed 15 Mar 2017 15:50

As far as i'm aware the main difference between the Two (not counting the External Changes) is the fact that the Centaur used a Nuffield Liberty V12 Mark V Petrol Engine while the Cromwell used the better Rolls Royce Meteor V12 Petrol Engine.
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Re: Which divisons?

Postby FrangibleCover » Wed 15 Mar 2017 16:02

I've heard that the Centaur was only used in combat in specialist variants but I've not got a proper source to back that up. It is always listed as a classic example of the 'crappy British cruiser tank', certainly, although It's probably quite an unfair judgement given that the Comet could reasonably have been called the Centaur XVI or something. Unfortunately I think the late arrival in theatre and important but uninteresting service of the Czechs makes them unlikely to turn up in SD:Normandy 44 anyway.

SD:Port Clearance Expansion Pack with Czechs, British Buffalos, Ramcke's Paras and attack/defend modes?
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Re: Which divisons?

Postby marecek05 » Wed 15 Mar 2017 16:31

FrangibleCover wrote:I've heard that the Centaur was only used in combat in specialist variants but I've not got a proper source to back that up. It is always listed as a classic example of the 'crappy British cruiser tank', certainly, although It's probably quite an unfair judgement given that the Comet could reasonably have been called the Centaur XVI or something. Unfortunately I think the late arrival in theatre and important but uninteresting service of the Czechs makes them unlikely to turn up in SD:Normandy 44 anyway.

SD:Port Clearance Expansion Pack with Czechs, British Buffalos, Ramcke's Paras and attack/defend modes?


It's also not called SD: 6 June '44 - 30 August '44 ;)

But I digress and agree that it should not be an independent division. However, as couple of units outside of a divisional structure that can reinforce the division of choice could be a good way to spice things up. But honestly, if CSR units are omitted in Normandy setting it is much less important than if they were omitted in Eastern front campaign, where they had an actual army corps.

By the way, I might steal SD:Port Clearance Expansion Pack for the sig with a picture of CSR Cromwell anyways :D
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Re: Which divisons?

Postby adribenzema » Thu 16 Mar 2017 02:47

101th airborne for bands of brother but all divisions,variety is my fun

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Re: Which divisons?

Postby FrangibleCover » Wed 22 Mar 2017 11:34

http://www.eugensystems.com/wp-content/ ... 163921.png

That's 91 Luftlande on the bottom, I'm not sure who the top unit are.
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Re: Which divisons?

Postby Markenzwieback » Wed 22 Mar 2017 11:49

FrangibleCover wrote:http://www.eugensystems.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/SteelDivision_20170321_163921.png

That's 91 Luftlande on the bottom, I'm not sure who the top unit are.

The bottom is 91. Infantrie-Division. It was planned to be air mobile, but that was scrapped pretty soon.

The top one is 116. Panzer-Division (Wehrmacht).
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