Extra, extra! Razzmann is biased and knows nothing about game!

Why no USSR Tigrs? Unacceptable! They would be okay with Tigr 6A with AGS-30... Or, as variant, Taifun-K would be neat.

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Хорошие, должно быть, были времена...

That heavily depends on burst length, shot reload, accuracy, etc. Otomatic & Tunguska are pretty good at killing helos are they not? There are just not a lot of spaags that have magazines, but everyone only thinks of Shilka and Biryusa which are just a bit overpriced. Both have a very good burs...

It depends on whether there are multiple helos or one :P Is it? Shilka will almost never kill helo with one burst. After burst and retaliation rocket barrage it will go to infinite reload. Vulcan, OTOH, can at least spray and pray stunning helo. You should stop with the Shilka vs Vulcan comparison....

Razzmann wrote:It depends on whether there are multiple helos or one

Is it? Shilka will almost never kill helo with one burst. After burst and retaliation rocket barrage it will go to infinite reload. Vulcan, OTOH, can at least spray and pray stunning helo.

How often does your aa get panicked while shooting at a plane? On frontlines(where SPAAGs belongs) under mortar fire, close death of IFV/tanks, under multiple planes bombrun - pretty enough. And how about helis? How do you think, who will have better chances against cannon/rocket heli, sustained ro...

I never made a statement on whether shilka is better or worse than vulcan. As for your second sentence, I ask you again to provide an engagement profile where consistent fire applies more damage than bursty damage provided equal overall rof. You will find it impossible. Feel free to say that high r...

No, I genuinely assumed you were bringing up supply trucks to the discussion. For normal reloads, there is NO case where reload has worse TTK than consistent shot given equal rof. Consider a gun that takes a second to shoot 9 times, then reloads for 9s. Another gun shoots once every 1.11 seconds. B...

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GARGEAN wrote:Plus shilka has LOWER real rof with reload that M163 without. Not even same.

As long as you acknowledge that having reload is a benefit instead of listing it with the other drawbacks..

Because it IS drawback in both AA and AG work.