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by Killertomato
Tue 10 Jul 2012 00:26
Forum: Wargame : European Escalation
Topic: NATO ATGM vs PACT ATGM
Replies: 50
Views: 5944

Re: NATO ATGM vs PACT ATGM

Yes, but may I remind you that they cannot get the spare parts for the T55/62 fleet from the soviets? Hence they could not use them in the medium tank role. No it does not. But if you compare it with other second generation (post war) tanks such as T64/72 and Chieftain you would find that it is not...
by Killertomato
Mon 9 Jul 2012 17:59
Forum: Wargame : European Escalation
Topic: So you thought you could infantry-spam my Starships?
Replies: 16
Views: 1435

Re: So you thought you could infantry-spam my Starships?

I love me some starships! That 4 HE cannon goes through infantry like a harvester through a wheat field.
by Killertomato
Mon 9 Jul 2012 17:46
Forum: Wargame : European Escalation
Topic: Convince me that the ATGM buff was the right thing to do..
Replies: 188
Views: 10699

Re: Convince me that the ATGM buff was the right thing to do

And most hits would be into turret, turrent mantle, gun mantle and other central weak zones. In addition - you should check the 1985 vintage ATGM penetration values, not the outdated 70s ones. Saying that the M1's turret front is a weak zone betrays a certain unfamiliarity with the M1. I recommend ...
by Killertomato
Mon 9 Jul 2012 17:38
Forum: Wargame : European Escalation
Topic: NATO ATGM vs PACT ATGM
Replies: 50
Views: 5944

Re: NATO ATGM vs PACT ATGM

They used M48 untill the end, as well as captured T55 and T62. In addition they produced their own tank as M60 replacement. They replaced as many M48s as possible with M60s, and they upgraded the M60s extensively. There are still some around today, after all. They used captured T-55s and T-62s, yes...
by Killertomato
Mon 9 Jul 2012 17:33
Forum: Off-Topic
Topic: ATGM dilemma -> Tanks in Modern Times
Replies: 109
Views: 5446

Re: The ATGM dilemma

ikalugin wrote:Sure, we procured it from the export orders to Egypt and Greece (M1A1 and Leo2).


Egyptian M1A1s would not tell you anything about the armor on American M1A1s. They are monkey models.
by Killertomato
Mon 9 Jul 2012 03:34
Forum: Wargame : European Escalation
Topic: Convince me that the ATGM buff was the right thing to do..
Replies: 188
Views: 10699

Re: Convince me that the ATGM buff was the right thing to do

This is a good thing as it forces one to dismount and advance on foot if at all. That is realistic, but realism isn't always good in-game (ex. tanks repairing in combat, division-level artillery and AD assets available, no strike aircraft). Shutting down infantry movement with TOW jeeps other ATGM ...
by Killertomato
Mon 9 Jul 2012 03:13
Forum: Wargame : European Escalation
Topic: Convince me that the ATGM buff was the right thing to do..
Replies: 188
Views: 10699

Re: Convince me that the ATGM buff was the right thing to do

ericdude88 wrote:
ATGMs SHOULD crush all soft targets like APCs. THat's not the problem and has nothing to do with the boost. Prepatch ATGMs could also blow up APC with 1 hit.


They crushed them before, but now most of them auto-kill everything inside the IFVs/APCs because of the AP boost.
by Killertomato
Mon 9 Jul 2012 03:05
Forum: Wargame : European Escalation
Topic: Convince me that the ATGM buff was the right thing to do..
Replies: 188
Views: 10699

Re: Convince me that the ATGM buff was the right thing to do

The AP boost is a little silly, isn't it? I dismount my infantry out of ATGM range if I can, I'm sick of losing several squads in their carriers because they have TOW jeeps/UAZ konkurs/fagot/assorted other ATGM launchers around. I do like the accuracy boost/glitch fix, though, it's nice to see my Mi...
by Killertomato
Mon 9 Jul 2012 03:00
Forum: Wargame : European Escalation
Topic: Respect / Encourage New Players
Replies: 39
Views: 2758

Re: Respect / Encourage New Players

But I see lots of low level games, why do low level people want to get into high level games? I don't know when you play, that's usually all there is. It isn't like this is World of Tanks were the lower tiers are jammed up, most of the people on at any given time are >level 30. Heck, I think the ga...
by Killertomato
Mon 9 Jul 2012 02:48
Forum: Wargame : European Escalation
Topic: NATO ATGM vs PACT ATGM
Replies: 50
Views: 5944

Re: NATO ATGM vs PACT ATGM

How is T62 a failed tank? I would say that out of all second generation post war tanks it was M60.


The M60 was worse than the Leopard I, the AMX-30, and the T-62? Interesting notion, you should probably tell the Israelis about it.

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