Fade2Gray wrote:There's a significant difference in survivablity when you start talking about 15-20+ tons of weight difference. Also, my biggest fear isn't from ATGMs, which are what you are referencing (and with piss poor "evidence" to back up your claims for that matter). There's all sorts of ways of dealing with ATGMs nowadays, and you can safely add in more protection from them without causing massive weight gains.
I'm talking about Russian main gun rounds, which are a whole different matter. APS are not exactly developed enough to protect against sabots just yet even if the Germans are apparently having some success with it.
Piss poor evidence, aha.
2015 to 2016 In the Middle East we get for the first time we see Leopard 2A4s, Leclercs and T-90s alongside M1A2s, T-72s and Sabra tanks in action, you know how much of a rare occurrence that is?
Fade that's all there is, its a small sample size but that's what we got, I'll hit you up again if WW3 start and we get quantitative data.
Well I'm arguing with someone I've never seen link a source on these topics and tends to not go into specifics...