[Future nation proposal] Indonesia in Wargame

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[Future nation proposal] Indonesia in Wargame

Postby JohnRamos90 » Sun 3 Jun 2018 17:47

So since Indonesia has no units present in Wargame, especially in Red Dragon, an Indonesian nation unit pack would be needed. Given Indonesia's long military history and many years of domestic and international deployments, a proper pack will reflect the long years of the changing tactics, strategies and equipment used by the Indonesian National Armed Forces (TNI, Tentara Nasional Indonesia, in the WG timeline the Armed Forces of the Republic of Indonesia or ABRI- Angkatan Bersenjata Republik Indonesia, the name used until 1999, which until that year included the National Police). So why an Indonesian deck?

1. Indonesia's first military equipment was sourced from both Japan and captured RNEIA (Royal Netherlands East Indies Army) equipment during the National Revolution, as well as from captured Royal Netherlands Army equipment and vehicles
2. From 1958 to 1969, the INAF, as part of the Sukarno administration's pro-Warsaw Pact policies in the armed forces and foreign diplomacy, was supplied also by the Warsaw Pact, primarily from the Soviet Union
3. From 1970 onwards, the INAF, during the Suharto presidency, returned to equipping its forces with NATO supplied equipment and arms
4. The nation was and still is a major factor in South East Asian politics during and after the Cold War.
5. Indonesia has had quite an history of domestic and international operations, like the regional rebellions and the Darul Islam insurgency of the 1950s, Operations Trikora (operations in Western New Guinea), Dwikora (the Confrontation with Malaysia) and Trisula (anti-communist insurgency) in the 1960s, Operation Seroja (occupation of East Timor) in the 1970s and the GAM (Gerakan Aceh Merdeka) movement rebellion and a renewed Papuan insurgency of the late 1980s up to the 1990s and the early 2000s, plus having deployed personnel in UN peacekeeping operations since 1958

Given its current stance of having its equipment being majority being from the West, it's a BLUFOR nation, while holding stocks of equipment from the Warsaw Pact which were the prime movers of the armed forces for the first half of the 1960s up till 1967, many of them still in service today together with newer equipment from Eastern Europe. Thus the pack reflects what the ABRI would have had the Cold War raged into the 1990s and beyond with mostly Western equipment plus the remaining stocks of Soviet and WP equipment while, in my idea, having followed the Egyptian example in the late 80s and early 90s by putting limited numbers of Eastern Bloc modern military equipment to supplant the old ones and putting nationally produced weapons and vehicles (thanks to state defense industry firms like PT PINDAD and Nusantara Aircraft Industries, today Indonesian Aerospace).

''Equipment sources are partly from Indomiliter.com and the Wiki pages of the Army, Air Force and Navy equipment to match what would have been the INAF equipment in an extended Cold War, names of units reflect the WG timeline period within the INAF. Several of these are my WIP given the long history of Indonesian military equipment''

LOGISTICS

Markas Satuan - Command unit of 8 soldiers, mounted in transports
AS.532 Vracht
AMX-PRVR
FOB
M114A1
M151A1 Command (Prototype)
M577 CPC
Unimog
UAZ-469U
Jeep M715
BRDM-1U
BRDM-2U (Prototype)
M35
Ural-375D Cargo
BMP-1K (prototype)
IPTN-MBB Bo-105
Mil Mi-6


Infantry Arms
H&K G3, FN MAG, FN FAL, PINDAD SSD-1, FN MIMIMI, RPG-7, RPD, AK-47, AK-74, H&K G3/SG-1, M-16, M-60 GMMG, M80 Grenade launcher, M79 Grenade Launcher, H&K HK416, Carl Gustaf M2

Infantry Units

Infanteri
Infanteri '90
Infanteri Kostrad - Kostrad is the Indonesian Army Strategic Command, the principal combat unit of the Army and its active reserves
Infanteri Kostrad '90
Infanteri Lintas Udara - the airborne infantry, attached to the Kostrad
Infanteri Lintas Udara '90
Zeni Tempur - Combat engineers
Kopassus - Army Special Forces Command, principal special forces unit
Kopassus '90
Korps Marinir - the Marine Corps, under the Indonesian Navy
Korps Marinir '90
Pelopor KBM (KBM - Korps Brigade Mobil, the Mobile Brigade of the National Police) - anti-infantry role, similar to the Wachregiment, fought in many combat operations since independence
Paskhasau - Indonesian Air Force infantry and special forces unit
RBS-70 - Air defense portable SAM role
ATGM Faktoriya
ATGM M2
Strela-3 - Air defense portable SAM role

Infantry Transports

BTR-60PB
BTR-40
BTR-152
BTR-50
BTR-50M (Prototype)
BTR-70 (Prototype)
Amtrac LVTA-1
BMP-1
BMP-2 (prototype)
M-113
AMX PRI
AMX-13 VTT
AMX-10P (Prototype)
VAB (prototype)
Alvis Saracen
FV 601 Saladin
Alvis Stormer (Prototype)
IPTN-MBB Bo-105
IPTN Bell 412
Mil Mi-6
AS.332F Super Puma
Puma 330H

Support

M106A2
AMX-105 Mk.61
2S1 Anyelir
2S3 Akasia
YP-408 PW-MT
BM-14 Marinir
BM-21 Grad-AD (AD-Army)
M53/59 Praga
ZSU-23-4V1 Shilka
M-51
BRDM-2 Strela-1M
MT-LB Strela-10M
RM-70 Marinir (Prototype)

Tanks

PT-76
PT-85 (prototype)
AMX-13
AMX-10 RC SB (prototype)
FV101 Scorpion

Recon

FV101 Scorpion
FV107 Scimitar
Alouette III
MBB Bo-105 Recon
FV712 Ferret
FV701 Ferret
BDRM-1
BRDM-2 (prototype)
Véhicule Blindé Léger
VBL Mistral (prototype)
Kopaska - 10-man squad of the Indonesian Navy special forces
Taifib - Marine Force recon unit, also a 10-man squad

Vehicle

M4A3 Sherman
M3A3 Stuart
PT-76
BTR-152
ASU-85
BTR-40
BTR-70 Zhalo (Prototype)
Panhard EBR
MT-LBV
FV601 Saladin
FV603 Saracen
M8 Greyhound
M113 Milan (protoype)
Jeep M40
M151A1C
V-150 Commando

Helicopter

Mil-6
Mil-8
Alouette III
IPTN-MBB Bo-105
IPTN Bell 412
Bell Ranger (prototype)
Mil Mi-17
AS.332F Super Puma
Puma 330H


Aircraft
MiG-21
MiG-25 (prototype)
CAC Sabre
A-4K Skyhawk
Hawk 200
OV-10 Bronco
F-5
F-16
Su-30 (prototype)
Mirage 2000 (prototype)

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Re: [Future nation proposal] Indonesia in Wargame

Postby JohnRamos90 » Sun 10 Jun 2018 16:34

BM-14 MRLs of the Indonesian Marine Corps 1978 (credit to Indomiliter)

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AMX-105 Mk.61 of the Indonesian Army 7th Field Artillery Battalion (SP), Jakarta Regional Command in 1996 (credit to Indomiliter)

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Re: [Future nation proposal] Indonesia in Wargame

Postby molnibalage » Mon 11 Jun 2018 11:28

I cant wait the time when somebody suggest as DLC nation Vatican City or Monaco...

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Re: [Future nation proposal] Indonesia in Wargame

Postby JohnRamos90 » Wed 13 Jun 2018 18:13

Indonesia is no Vatican or Monaco, both of which have small armed forces. It has one of the strongest military forces in the Asia Pacific.

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Re: [Future nation proposal] Indonesia in Wargame

Postby molnibalage » Thu 14 Jun 2018 10:26

JohnRamos90 wrote:Indonesia is no Vatican or Monaco, both of which have small armed forces. It has one of the strongest military forces in the Asia Pacific.

And would not bring any flavour to DB and would be 100% non competitive. Adding such a new nations with such fantasy units as FIN or YUG should not be followed.

Whatever... WG has reached its end of lifecycle years ago...

I cannot see any intention from Eugen side is doing anyting with WG:RD. IMHO the engine of WG (not graphical) outdated a new very strongly upgraded game in CW era would be good closer to timeframe of ALB. The modeling limitations are too stongs, many things is modeled with very poor absraction, etc.

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