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Re: #MakeAmericaGreatAgain

Postby Doinize » Fri 10 Aug 2018 21:02

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Fade2Gray wrote:TIL that white ultra nationalists, like Richard Spencer, are actually leftists. Never mind that they did rallies called "Unite the Right" they are definitely leftists.

Thanks Laura!

Pretty sure Steve Bannon called himself a socialist once, or a marxist. Maybe he meant national socialist.

He supposedly called himself a Leninist once "because like Lenin i want to destroy the State" (fuckin lol @ that but i digress)
Also when RWers call themselves "Socialists" they make it clear they dont mean marxist socialism like, 100% of the time. Mussolini did it when he originated the term "national socialism" and the Nazis did as well

The whole "actually the right is good and everything thats bad on the right is actually left wing" take has been going strong with the republicans recently. That fucking dumbass D'Souza is the prime perpetrator...

The actual litteral white supremacists and neo-nazis running for the GOP get degraded to "leftist saboteurs" trying to make the poor innocent rightwingers look bad...thats the amount of mental gymnastics were talking here...
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Re: #MakeAmericaGreatAgain

Postby Killertomato » Sat 11 Aug 2018 03:39

Doinize wrote:The actual litteral white supremacists and neo-nazis running for the GOP get degraded to "leftist saboteurs" trying to make the poor innocent rightwingers look bad...thats the amount of mental gymnastics were talking here...


They don't believe in anything except lib-owning. There are no gymnastics, it's all very consistent when you look at it that way.
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Re: #MakeAmericaGreatAgain

Postby Grabbed_by_the_Spets » Sat 11 Aug 2018 05:23

Fade2Gray wrote:TIL that white ultra nationalists, like Richard Spencer, are actually leftists. Never mind that they did rallies called "Unite the Right" they are definitely leftists.

Thanks Laura!


Laura Southern caused a shitstorm in this country.

She couldn't find a venue willing to host her or Molineux, did the whole "Muh freeze peach" spiel, got all the neckbeards panties in a bunch.
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Re: #MakeAmericaGreatAgain

Postby Fade2Gray » Sat 11 Aug 2018 07:07

So I came back to Seattle for a bit, and...

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/se ... 32af9839aa

someone stole a plane and went for a joy ride?
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Re: #MakeAmericaGreatAgain

Postby Shrike » Sun 12 Aug 2018 23:26

I still don't see the hype the bernouts are building up with Tulsi, she seems to be a very pro-assad. Hopefully Campagna replaces her.

Doinize wrote:Pretty sure Steve Bannon called himself a socialist once, or a marxist. Maybe he meant national socialist.
He supposedly called himself a Leninist once "because like Lenin i want to destroy the State" (fuckin lol @ that but i digress)
Also when RWers call themselves "Socialists" they make it clear they dont mean marxist socialism like, 100% of the time. Mussolini did it when he originated the term "national socialism" and the Nazis did as well

The whole "actually the right is good and everything thats bad on the right is actually left wing" take has been going strong with the republicans recently. That fucking dumbass D'Souza is the prime perpetrator...


The actual litteral white supremacists and neo-nazis running for the GOP get degraded to "leftist saboteurs" trying to make the poor innocent rightwingers look bad...thats the amount of mental gymnastics were talking here...[/quote]
To be fair the original fascists were originally syndicalists or members of the PSI, heck Mussolini used to write for Avanti. The fascist state relied on a command economy with select oligarchs put into power. Kind of like the current RU with Putin ruling with an iron fist, his subordinates and lackeys that carry out his will, and his oligarchs which run the economy. The tea party types on the right wing like to scream about how the dems have been trying to take away their freedom, yet hold favorable views of Putin and Assad who are quite authoritarian.

Grabbed_by_the_Spets wrote:Laura Southern caused a shitstorm in this country.

She couldn't find a venue willing to host her or Molineux, did the whole "Muh freeze peach" spiel, got all the neckbeards panties in a bunch.

Laura should be forced to take an actual statistics class, her great replacement video was awful. The chaos that followed with her presence seems intentional and that she should be held accountable for what happened.

edit: also speaking off fascists, literal dictator on the times
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/10/opin ... tions.html
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Re: #MakeAmericaGreatAgain

Postby frostypooky » Mon 13 Aug 2018 00:59

https://sofrep.com/103975/a-matter-of-h ... olm-nance/

checks out with the talk i hear--he doesn't have that much practical experience with regards to national intel matters, yet he is selling himself as an expert qualified to talk on the juicy details of counterintelligence in relations to Russia investigation. also highlights how the military chooses to take care of useless bodies even if it is difficult to get a clearance pulled (pretty much required a misdemeanor or crime) or someone kicked out (ditto).

i'm all for awareness and vigilence against Putin's last 5 years of reactionary, self-fulfilling-victim geopolitics towards West but it doesnt help to go onto MSNBC and use a severely exaggerated CV to call everyone that doesnt hold the center/center-left line a "Russian agent or rube"

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Re: #MakeAmericaGreatAgain

Postby Doinize » Mon 13 Aug 2018 18:21

Shrike wrote:To be fair the original fascists were originally syndicalists or members of the PSI, heck Mussolini used to write for Avanti.

Yeah, used to. He abandoned class struggle and marxist socialism for class collaboration though.

The fascist state relied on a command economy with select oligarchs put into power.

fascist economics are a bit wierd and kinda hard to pin down...
The economic policy of fascist Italy was at times classical liberal, Keynesian and later ultimately Corporatist, with parts of the PNI remaining in favour of national syndicalist economics. The corporatist model became the, well model, for the economies of Austrofascism, Salazars Portugal and the BUFs economic model along others.

The Nazis economic policy is a whole other can of worms...
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Re: #MakeAmericaGreatAgain

Postby frostypooky » Sat 18 Aug 2018 03:12

Erik Prince on CNN just now trying to defend the idea of shifting over US combat arms in Afghanistan to 75% PMCs. got smoked by Chris Cuomo but he left a real doozy of a Good Analogy:

"we can be as successful as the East India Company"

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Re: #MakeAmericaGreatAgain

Postby D-M » Sun 19 Aug 2018 13:12

frostypooky wrote:https://sofrep.com/103975/a-matter-of-honor-the-fiction-of-malcolm-nance/

checks out with the talk i hear--he doesn't have that much practical experience with regards to national intel matters, yet he is selling himself as an expert qualified to talk on the juicy details of counterintelligence in relations to Russia investigation. also highlights how the military chooses to take care of useless bodies even if it is difficult to get a clearance pulled (pretty much required a misdemeanor or crime) or someone kicked out (ditto).

i'm all for awareness and vigilence against Putin's last 5 years of reactionary, self-fulfilling-victim geopolitics towards West but it doesnt help to go onto MSNBC and use a severely exaggerated CV to call everyone that doesnt hold the center/center-left line a "Russian agent or rube"


We have more and more of those over here too since the terrorists attacks, ex DGSE/DGSI and journalists who barely did more than serving cofee or were fired and then think they are tough shit and feel legitimate to dispense their "expertise" on TV while basking in the service's prestige.
Heck we even had a culinary journo pose as terrorism expert...

I will always remember how Eric Denécé said in a talk show, that eco warriors try stealing nuclear bombs since the 70' to make them detonate between tectonic plates while surrounded by jounalists who should have known better. And yet those people are still invited to spew their shit before an audience...
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Re: #MakeAmericaGreatAgain

Postby Crotou » Mon 20 Aug 2018 14:45

D-M wrote:Heck we even had a culinary journo pose as terrorism expert...

Périco Légasse is slowly tunring into legend. I hope one day he will host his own show talking about counter-terrorism while tasting saucisson and drinking some Beaujolais.
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