The F35 saga is continuing on

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The F35 saga is continuing on

Postby Absha » Sun 26 Jan 2014 22:10

After many reports coming from official sources (see DOT&E 2012 or Pentagon reports from October 2013), Reuters, quoting another recent report, is currently saying that F35B's certification will wait second-half of the year 2015.

Plus, quoted reports are saying that F35 can't fly under Cumulonimbus or 20nm around them, under instrumental meteorological conditions or freezing conditions, also it can currently only take +4/-2g and can't do aerobatic flying, which makes it a perfect replacement plane for this plane :

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Which has the same performances except some airspeed limitations of course, but the Skycatcher can fly during night, is a two-seater and it is more accessible in terms of prices for keeping the Cessna 162 in flying condition or just to buy it.

I would recommend that Country that has already bought F35 should buy Skycatchers instead and push Cessna to come back in Europe.

If they really want a jet plane, they can glue this to the back of the Cessna Skycatcher.


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Postby RedDevilCG » Sun 26 Jan 2014 22:23

Cessna makes great planes. Almost never see a flying club without them.
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Re: The F35 saga is continuing on

Postby Killertomato » Sun 26 Jan 2014 22:39

Plus, quoted reports are saying that F35 can't fly under Cumulonimbus or 20nm around them, under instrumental meteorological conditions or freezing conditions, also it can currently only take +4/-2g and can't do aerobatic flying, which makes it a perfect replacement plane for this plane :


See, you're confusing 'cannot do' with 'has not been cleared to do.'
Two very different things.

And the F-35 has not only flown at night, but refueled at night! :o
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Re: The F35 saga is continuing on

Postby Absha » Sun 26 Jan 2014 22:58

See you cannot see the difference between a production plane and a test plane. Now let's see five of them do that !
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Re: The F35 saga is continuing on

Postby BTR » Sun 26 Jan 2014 23:17

B variant has never been particularly lucky, but A's and C's are doing fine it looks. For a fat flying minimeanjet that is.
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Re: The F35 saga is continuing on

Postby Graphic » Sun 26 Jan 2014 23:22

Absha wrote:See you cannot see the difference between a production plane and a test plane. Now let's see five of them do that !


Not sure what your point is. They're all test planes because they're not done yet. There is no production F-35.
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Re: The F35 saga is continuing on

Postby Bryan » Mon 27 Jan 2014 01:06

No wonder Singapore did not say anything on confirming the F-35 after South Korea confirmed it.

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Re: The F35 saga is continuing on

Postby Absha » Mon 27 Jan 2014 01:45

Graphic wrote:Not sure what your point is. They're all test planes because they're not done yet. There is no production F-35.


In the ICAO rules i fear not, there's actually production planes meant to be used for future instructor & also operational pilots before military certification as it comes after FAA approbation for flying. Also production planes are used in other countries to stop worrying them & assure them that the F35 is OK with local regulations, authorities & especially its expected performances.

There's currently 82 F-35 delivered since 2011, and only 5 of them are for test flight (always 5 test planes for every planes in this world except General Aviation that need only 2 or 3 depending on local regulations & experimental one (or UL in Europe) that needs ... one)).

Those 5 test planes are specialized and one of them is actually modified to pass through thunderstorm, icing & IM conditions.

This is currently not normal, as combat possibilities are developped over the years but flying possibilities should be there when the production starts.

B variant has never been particularly lucky, but A's and C's are doing fine it looks.


We'll see when pre-production ends & production starts, like the B variant.
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Re: The F35 saga is continuing on

Postby Cheesehead » Mon 27 Jan 2014 04:03

B variant will probably take longer due to the increased complexity of the VTOL system. From an engineering standpoint, I'm quite impressed they managed to get a power-train system to transfer power from the jet engine to the VTOL fan, yet make it light enough to fly.
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Re: The F35 saga is continuing on

Postby Darth-Lampshade » Mon 27 Jan 2014 07:42

The sky is falling again. Yes the F-35 will explode if a pilot with too much static electricity takes a seat, its engine will melt holes through the decks of carriers and LHA/LHDs and blow out the eardrums of anybody in a 5 mile radius, it will turn like a MiG-25 and have the speed of an A-10, if somebody on the ground looks at it funny it will burst into flames.

It's always the same for any major military aircraft program. Plus some civilian ones too if I recall the 787's history. Like the F-22A they'll work out most of the bugs just in time for production numbers to be dramatically cut, causing the cost per unit to balloon, and the process to repeat itself.
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