Islamic State/Coalition Bombing Mega Thread

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Postby Kolovrat » Sat 24 Oct 2015 21:45

frostypooky wrote: if Russia is serious, this is probably the biggest window to ensure elections are UN-monitored, and that oppositon factions actually survive to present election opposition to Baathists.


They refused.

BTW, frontline's extremely tense right now: both loyalists and IS easily crushed rebels around Aleppo, loyalists report they are about to surround the city.

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But after brilliant coordinated IS+An-Nusra interception of loyalist communications situation became even more complicated. Is there anybody who still insists IS is not a state, even after one and a half year of brilliant military operations and continious expansion?

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Postby delfo » Sat 24 Oct 2015 21:47

Kolovrat wrote:But after brilliant coordinated IS+An-Nusra interception of loyalist communications situation became even more complicated. Is there anybody who still insists IS is not a state, even after one and a half year of brilliant military operations and continious expansion?

It's not that they are yet a state. It's that Assad has a banana republic.

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Postby Kolovrat » Sat 24 Oct 2015 22:10

delfo wrote:
Kolovrat wrote:But after brilliant coordinated IS+An-Nusra interception of loyalist communications situation became even more complicated. Is there anybody who still insists IS is not a state, even after one and a half year of brilliant military operations and continious expansion?

It's not that they are yet a state. It's that Assad has a banana republic.


Well, banana republic is still a republic.

And what about Iraq? About a third of its territory is not under government control no matter the US support.

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Postby delfo » Sat 24 Oct 2015 22:12

Kolovrat wrote:
delfo wrote:
Kolovrat wrote:But after brilliant coordinated IS+An-Nusra interception of loyalist communications situation became even more complicated. Is there anybody who still insists IS is not a state, even after one and a half year of brilliant military operations and continious expansion?

It's not that they are yet a state. It's that Assad has a banana republic.


Well, banana republic is still a republic.

And what about Iraq? About a third of its territory is not under government control no matter the US support.


Also a banana republic.

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Re: Islamic State/Coalition Bombing Mega Thread

Postby Graphic » Sat 24 Oct 2015 22:55

Fade2Gray wrote:http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34627441

Can someone lend me some salt? Like... a bag's worth? Better yet, have a snow plow dump off a full load in my driveway.


I'm glad they refused. You can trust Putin to do what he says he will about as far as you can throw him.

http://www.theatlantic.com/internationa ... ia/408562/

Knowing the US would (rightly) refuse, this is probably some PR ploy.
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Postby Kolovrat » Sat 24 Oct 2015 23:24

Graphic wrote: You can trust Putin to do what he says he will about as far as you can throw him.

http://www.theatlantic.com/internationa ... ia/408562/



Breaking news! Politicians actually do not exactly what they say! There is no Santa! Children aren't brought by a stork!

Well, it was an actual path to peace in Syria. Too bad opposition's real masters overseas don't care at all about peace and prosperity in far away banana republic (another example of "there is no Santa").

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Postby delfo » Sat 24 Oct 2015 23:47

There are reports from both Pro Rebel and Pro Regime sources that the IDF went for a stroll in Syria.

They are saying it's a rescue operation against the Yarmouk Martyrs Brigade who are believed to have captured either a civilian or military aviator. Also some reports say that Assad forces and Hezbollah staging areas got hit anyway. Sort of a just for laughs thing by the IDF.

Kolovrat wrote:Well, it was an actual path to peace in Syria. Too bad opposition's real masters overseas don't care at all about peace and prosperity in far away banana republic (another example of "there is no Santa").


The biggest issue is that Russia isn't the party that can negotiate for Assad. Iran is paying the bills. Every time there has been a cease fire it has been brokered through mediation in Turkey between the opposition groups and Iran.

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Re: Islamic State/Coalition Bombing Mega Thread

Postby Graphic » Sat 24 Oct 2015 23:53

Kolovrat wrote:Well, it was an actual path to peace in Syria. Too bad opposition's real masters overseas don't care at all about peace and prosperity in far away banana republic (another example of "there is no Santa").


lmao, now who's being naive?
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Re: Islamic State/Coalition Bombing Mega Thread

Postby Shrike » Sun 25 Oct 2015 02:26

oh hey its eastern version of lonerifle

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Re: Islamic State/Coalition Bombing Mega Thread

Postby Graphic » Sun 25 Oct 2015 02:53

I mean let's analyze the logic of this.

Russia and Assad's preoccupation has been with bombing rebels that have nothing to do with the Islamic State. Russia claims to bomb IS, but most of the targets are confirmed to be nowhere near IS territory. Syria then, with Russian support, launches a ground offensive that runs into countless TOW ambushes and fizzles out.

Now, since Russia has shown since day one that their main target is the FSA fighting Assad and not the IS and them lying about it (badly) to the world the entire time, why in the living hell would anyone except a brainwashed nincompoop believe that Russia is going to suddenly, days after trying to annihilate them, support their biggest enemy in Syria?

Obama is many things but he's not a moron. Anyone can see what a ridiculously obvious ploy this is.

"Yes, yes, Mr. President. Please share with us all of the rebel positions that we were trying to destroy 10 minutes ago, we'll be sure to drop inaccurate bombs kalashnikovs, rations, and ATGMs for them right away. :D :D :D"

Give me a break.
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