Islamic State/Coalition Bombing Mega Thread

[CornProducts]

My papa always told me to never trust a man who can't take the time to spell "you."

[Yakhont]

If delfo is making you so unhappy, just block him. I did months ago and I'm much better off for it. His brand of infinite wisdom keeps showing up when someone quotes him though.

Yes indeed. Thanks to the Saudi, Turkish troops leading a coalition of 20 Muslim countries into Syria that now there has managed to have a ceasefire between rebels and government forces, along with UN troops. Russia, which totally has no power or influence, has wasted all its monies intervening in Syria and as a result has run home with tail between its legs, with millions of its airmen, marines and over 90% of equipment totally destroyed by MANPADs supplied by rebel allies.

In non-insane reality, Putin has called the Syria operation as a success and will lead to peace.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/18/world ... urope&_r=0

In return for the Turkish shutdown of the Russian jet a few months ago, Russia has played the Kurdish card the same way a violinist plays a stradivarius on Piccadilly Lance. In addition to opening a YPG office in Moscow last month, Russia is starting to arm Iraqi kurds with antiaircraft guns.

https://www.rt.com/news/332077-kurdish- ... ce-moscow/
http://www.voanews.com/content/russia-s ... 42588.html

On the Palmyra front, Russian ground forces and aircraft are continuing to assist the SAA against IS. There has been one confirmed Russian casualty.
http://aranews.net/2016/03/russian-mili ... s-palmyra/
RIP

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-midea ... SKCN0WD1GN
http://aranews.net/2016/03/syrian-air-f ... rrel-bombs
http://news.yahoo.com/russian-air-strik ... 51153.html

More geopolitical analysis on Russia's goals and actions in Syria.

[delfo]

If delfo is making you so unhappy, just block him. I did months ago and I'm much better off for it. His brand of infinite wisdom keeps showing up when someone quotes him though.

Blocking me also doesn't make you less Tang dependant. ( It's a Kool aid substitute)

Let us review

Yes indeed. Thanks to the Saudi, Turkish troops leading a coalition of 20 Muslim countries into Syria that now there has managed to have a ceasefire between rebels and government forces,

No Saudi or Turkish Army troops in uniform in Syria. Saudi and Turkish tanks, apcs, planes, helicopters or vehicles, none. Russian and Iranian, plenty. One mississipi.

along with UN troops.

Russia blocked there being UN troops. Two misssissipis.

Russia, which totally has no power or influence, has wasted all its monies intervening in Syria

Russia didn't have monies to begin with. Two and a half months into the year Russia has had 3 budget cuts. On the Iran influence I believe Iran still wants its S300s which are blocked again... Three mississipis.

and as a result has run home with tail between its legs, with millions of its airmen, marines and over 90% of equipment totally destroyed by MANPADs supplied by rebel allies.

One Mississipi strawman. The majority of MANPADs in Syria used to this day were Russian aid to Assad which he then lost... Also four mississipis.

In non-insane reality, Putin has called the Syria operation as a success and will lead to peace.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/18/world ... urope&_r=0

Or what in reality was claimed by the Kremlin:

"The operation’s military goal is exclusively air support of the Syrian armed forces in their fight against ISIL," he said.

Mighty short memory there, here's the source:

http://tass.ru/en/politics/824824

Five mississipis.

In return for the Turkish shutdown of the Russian jet a few months ago, Russia has played the Kurdish card the same way a violinist plays a stradivarius on Piccadilly Lance. In addition to opening a YPG office in Moscow last month, Russia is starting to arm Iraqi kurds with antiaircraft guns.

https://www.rt.com/news/332077-kurdish- ... ce-moscow/
http://www.voanews.com/content/russia-s ... 42588.html

You may need a map figuring out where the representatives of the Syrian Kurdish canton of Afrin are and where Iraq is. Two different countries and all that. But to top your one plane with military aid:



http://news.yahoo.com/iraqi-kurdish-lea ... 45013.html

To add to that after the attack in Ankara this week which Barzani condemned he spoke in an interview about the futility of the PKK actions and spoke at length against the organization and said that he sees the YPG not as an organization representing the kurds but as a war tool harming the prospects of the Kurdish people. That's the Iraqi Kurdistan leader to whom you bragged about bringing weapons. The guy who is saying crazy stuff like the PKK are at fault for what the Turkish army is doing Cizre and Sur...

Six mississipis.

On the Palmyra front, Russian ground forces and aircraft are continuing to assist the SAA against IS. There has been one confirmed Russian casualty.

2 confirmed GRU if you had searched the photos and claims of a total of 5. If the gear and the soldiers' bodies couldn't be evacuated which in this case is a priority because they were top tier, the situation was RDDD. It's from before your time.

But sure, you're the one in reality and I am living in a fantasy world.

Was this in the fantasy world last June, that is June 2015:



http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/en/orig ... ijan.html#

We're out of Mississipis...

[delfo]

http://kommersant.ru/doc/2940103

Список награждаемых вопросов не вызывал, кроме пятого пункта. Им был помечен генерал-майор Юрий Яровицкий, первый заместитель командующего 1-й танковой армией Западного военного округа, награжденный орденом Святого Георгия IV степени. Про российские танки, участвующие в операции, широкой общественности что-то не сообщалось. Впрочем, расспросы по этому поводу были недолгими. Да, наши танки, по словам очевидцев, видевших их собственными глазами, в Сирии были и есть. Да, немного. Но не меньше пяти штук. Более того, танкисты — наши люди, и остается, видимо, только гордиться, что ты являешься их современником. Трудно было, видимо, решиться доверить родные механизмы чужим (хоть, с другой стороны, и своим, да еще каким своим, конечно) людям.

So the operation that was not a ground forces operation gives a medal to the commander of the ground forces in the operation for his competance in executing the ground operation.

Will someone tell me I am living in fantasy world again ?

The commander of the howitzer unit of the 120th Artillery Brigade got a medal too:

http://tayga.info/news/2016/03/18/~126357

[Yakhont]

You won't be able to understand it; a functioning brain and reading comprehension is required.

Anyone following the Russian intervention knows that ground troops have been present for both guarding the base and conducting limited operations against opposition groups and ISIS. Even right now there are troops fighting troops near Palmyra and officers that are suppose to monitor the ceasefire.

The vast majority of action and firepower however, is by the Aerospace Forces.

Pretending something never happening than faking outrage later is not a grievance worth tolerating.

Too bad January delfo thought Turkey and KSA were genuinely going to invade Syria. Maybe you should send him a PM correcting him. If you are lucky enough, he might even answer.

[delfo]

You won't be able to understand it; a functioning brain and reading comprehension is required.

Anyone following the Russian intervention knows that ground troops have been present for both guarding the base and conducting limited operations against opposition groups and ISIS. Even right now there are troops fighting troops near Palmyra and officers that are suppose to monitor the ceasefire.

The vast majority of action and firepower however, is by the Aerospace Forces.

Pretending something never happening than faking outrage later is not a grievance worth tolerating.

Too bad January delfo thought Turkey and KSA were genuinely going to invade Syria. Maybe you should send him a PM correcting him. If you are lucky enough, he might even answer.

Now if only there was a way to view what I have written in January and compare... A search function as one my call it... But alas that technology is beyond us...

But to help Yakhont on February 10th he said this about the KSA ( while in Janauary I only mentioned the embassy and the hypocrisy of the moves by both the KSA and Iran)

viewtopic.php?f=104&t=46207&start=4150

Spoiler : :

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2016/02 ... world&_r=0

US wants a ceasefire in Syria effective immediately.

Probably wont happen. Russia's geopolitical goal in Syria is mainly to "trade" the issue for a Western deal that allows her a free hand in Ukraine, much more directly important. However since the US and EU as a whole have rejected that, Moscow will probably "go all the way" in Syria.

Been looking at some reports for Turkey's and Saudi Arabia's plans for intervening in Syria. According to this
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/f ... into-syria

Turkey and KSA(Kingdom of Saudi Arabia) could form a Dangerous Alliance and attack from Turkey. Troop movement can be easily tracked and depending on what pretext they want to invade Syria, time is important since there might not be a Syrian opposition to save.

Another route is attacking through Jordan toward the Daraa crossing. I dont think the Kingdom of Jordan itself will support such an attack but they could allow it. KSA has no expeditionary forces though so any effort would be long and hard for them. They would have to set up a base in Jordan first since I doubt the Jordanians will lend them one. Also they are currently tied up in Yemen which is another point through which Iran can retaliate.

Iran could escalate and send much more than the troops it currently has in Syria, preempting both Turkey and KSA. Such a move will bring them directly into conflict however. Maybe this was Putins plan all along to send oil prices skyrocketing.

Without US backing, its unlikely Turkey and KSA will directly take on Assad, Iran and Russia in Syria.

And the image of it for safe keeping:

http://imgur.com/UkBMBh9

Yakhont why are you attributing what you said to me and then mocking me? Are you mocking yourself in a weird way or ?

Also I still don't get how is it that I am not living in reality?

[orcbuster]

"YOU" RULE IS IN EFFECT. DISCUSS SUBJECT ONLY.NEXT THING RESEMBLING AN AD-HOMINEM WILL RESULT IN MOD ACTIONS

[Yakhont]

[ikalugin]

Your prophesying of DeZ collapse began already in January.

I wonder if he upheld his end of the wager, though I guess I would never know, as he is blocked here and on steam so direct comms are not happening.

[Guggy]

Russia didnt do very well bombing ISIS tbh.

Bad bombing 2016.