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Re: France you make me feel good about my county

Postby another505 » Wed 19 Nov 2014 06:31

yea.. cant read it cause need to log in/subs
can you just summarize/paraphrase it?
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Re: France you make me feel good about my county

Postby Regnar » Wed 19 Nov 2014 06:45

Protip: if an article is behind a paywall, nine times out of ten you can get the full version if you just paste the title into google.

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Postby litdif » Wed 19 Nov 2014 07:00

another505 wrote:yea.. cant read it cause need to log in/subs
can you just summarize/paraphrase it?


maybe tomorrow but now I will leave you with this little taste
The national mood? Look at how the French have made a publishing phenomenon out of a book titled “Le Suicide Français” by Eric Zemmour, now at the top of the best-seller list for a sixth straight week. It contends over the course of 527 pages that feminist and antiracist activists have helped destroy France; that American soft power forever subverted the French mind-set through the U.S television series “Dallas”; and that Richard Nixon’s downfall was part of an attack on the white male and majority rule.

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Re: France you make me feel good about my county

Postby Graphic » Wed 19 Nov 2014 07:03

France Descends Into Ridiculousness
Tales of a president who can’t govern, politicans who can’t shoot straight and a public increasingly turning to crackpots for guidance.


There’s a French maxim that goes, “Ridicule never kills anyone.” Extend that in France these days to ridiculousness.

The country is at a practical and spiritual low point, living through a tragicomic fug of connivance, conspiracy theories, dinky economic reforms, and the oldie but revitalized goodie of French anti-Americanism. Still rich, still smart, a France adrift in bumbling and hysterics can seem laughable. But the combination makes the 2017 presidential ambitions of Marine Le Pen and the extreme-right National Front ever more reasonable.

The national mood? Look at how the French have made a publishing phenomenon out of a book titled “Le Suicide Français” by Eric Zemmour, now at the top of the best-seller list for a sixth straight week. It contends over the course of 527 pages that feminist and antiracist activists have helped destroy France; that American soft power forever subverted the French mind-set through the U.S television series “Dallas”; and that Richard Nixon’s downfall was part of an attack on the white male and majority rule.

Add Mr. Zemmour’s preposterous contention that France’s collaborationist Vichy regime in World War II was better at saving Jews than at turning them over to the Nazis. The American academic Robert Paxton, whose 1972 book, “Vichy France,” made the first full demonstration of the regime’s role as an eager accessory, is singled out as having become “the pope” of a “repentant” France since robbed of its identity and unable to demand complete assimilation from its Arab immigrants.

Here’s a country of readers and incessant talkers that’s in real trouble. A national poll last month showed regard for Mr. Zemmour as intelligent, eloquent and courageous. No majorities in the polling sample judged him dangerous, a demagogue or racist.

Alongside that, with its no-growth stagnation and 11% unemployment, France’s jokey, who’ll-pay-the-bills? management of the economy and politics is an everyday adventure. The past two weeks provided these dumb-and-dumber measures of incompetence: First, President François Hollande, trying out a newly personal, me-to-you approach during a 90-minute television appearance, got the French retirement age wrong. He said it was 62. There probably wasn’t a voter in his audience who didn’t know it’s 60 until 2017.

Then, in the area of connivance, conspiracy and collusion, the president’s chief of staff and best friend, Jean-Pierre Jouyet, was exposed for not telling the truth about a meeting he had with François Fillon, who served as prime minister during Nicolas Sarkozy’s presidency. Mr. Fillon was reported to have urged Mr. Jouyet to accelerate current judicial proceedings against the former president so as to damage Mr. Sarkozy’s attempt to regain his old office.

Initially, Mr. Jouyet said this never happened. But then two reporters produced a tape recording of him recounting Mr. Fillon’s proposal. Oops. The chief presidential aide backed down. And Ms. Le Pen won big points for her contention that France is run by an elitist clique.

Meanwhile, Nicolas Baverez, a prominent observer of France’s decline regardless of regime, wrote that Mr. Hollande’s policies had made France an “unmanageable” sick man among developed nations and a threat to the euro.

Where and how does all of this stop? Surely not with a president, like Mr. Hollande, unwilling to make big-bang decisions obliterating the Socialist holy writ of the 35-hour workweek, or initiating an affirmative-action, job-quota program for Muslim immigrants that also insists on the cementing their loyalty to French society.

What Mr. Hollande can do is look like he has a grip on authority by refusing delivery to Russia, originally scheduled for this month, of one of two French-built Mistral helicopter-carrying assault vessels. It would be a reinforcement of tough-minded French foreign policy. It would also represent tangible action to back up the Western assertion that Russia’s action in Ukraine is an intolerable effort to rewrite the map of Europe’s post-Soviet order. And it would establish a clear government battle line with Ms. Le Pen, who has expressed her admiration for Vladimir Putin.

But for French politicians, being called an American marionette is historically a far more poisonous accusation than identification as a friend of Russia. As evidence of just how rancid the politics of weakness has become—well beyond its tragicomic ridiculousness—Mr. Sarkozy leapt last weekend at a chance to side with Russia and say the attack vessels must be delivered.

It did not take an especially fine ear to pick up Mr. Sarkozy’s strategy. “What I don’t accept,” he said. “is that suspending the Mistral’s delivery gets decided in a pitiful manner on the eve of a NATO summit [in September] because the president of the United States asks you for it.”

This was the same Mr. Sarkozy who had once pitched himself as America’s dear friend, and criticized Russia’s brutality, while running for president in 2006. Now he says, “Russia is a natural partner of France.”

Even with Mr. Putin authorizing Russia’s deployment of its nuclear-capable missiles and aircraft in the stolen Ukranian province of Crimea? Yes.
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Re: France you make me feel good about my county

Postby LoneRifle » Wed 19 Nov 2014 07:16

Cue a Frenchmen explanation of why this is a lie and that it's all an American conspiracy to take over their industry and economy.
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Re: France you make me feel good about my county

Postby Fade2Gray » Wed 19 Nov 2014 07:33

Whenever I see an article details the madness of France keeps falling deeper and deeper into....

my mind keeps turning to the fact that without France way back when, the USA would have never happened.
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Re: France you make me feel good about my county

Postby Rorschach » Wed 19 Nov 2014 09:16

The French don't seem to want to work. 35 hour weeks, massive strikes for even the slightest of changes. It's 1970s Britain all over again.
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Re: France you make me feel good about my county

Postby [EUG]MadMat » Wed 19 Nov 2014 10:37

Rorschach wrote:The French don't seem to want to work. 35 hour weeks, massive strikes for even the slightest of changes. It's 1970s Britain all over again.

We are ranking only #6 in Europe by the number of strike days per years.
The fact is, you often have strikes in France, but they rarely last more than one day or two, just the time to demonstrate in the streets.
In other countries with very powerful unions (which isn't really the case in France), like Germany, when they start a strike, it can go on for weeks, even monthes.

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Re: France you make me feel good about my county

Postby Crotou » Wed 19 Nov 2014 11:54

Just to say that Nicolas Baverez (cited as a "prominent expert") is just a liberal lobbyist. Nothing more.

And if you want a real illustration of French ridicule, here it is :


I'm still amused by the fact our "35 hours a week" remains a big deal for other countries. Maybe they imagine people really work only 35h per week, which is false (the average is more around 40-45h). It is only the limit after you are considered to work overtime. And you get paid only if you are not an executive. Else you get screwed. ;)
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