[Non/Future nation] Balkan Federation (Yug, Rom, Bulg)

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[Non/Future nation] Balkan Federation (Yug, Rom, Bulg)

Postby icehawk308 » Sat 24 Jan 2015 19:20

Faction Name: Balkan Federation, Balkan Block
Nations: Yugoslavia, Bulgaria, Romania

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he Balkan Federation was a project about the creation of a Balkan federation or confederation, based mainly on left political ideas.[1]

The concept of a Balkan federation emerged at the late 19th century from among left political forces in the region. The central aim was to establish a new political unity: a common federal republic unifying the Balkan Peninsula on the basis of internationalism, socialism, social solidarity, and economic equality. The underlying vision was that despite differences among the Balkan peoples the historical need for emancipation was a common basis for unification.

This political concept went through three phases in its development. In the first phase the idea was articulated as a response to the collapse of the Ottoman Empire at the beginning of the 20th century. In the second phase, mostly through the interwar period (1919–36), the idea of the Balkan federation was taken up by the Balkan communist parties. The third phase is characterized by clash between Balkan communist leaders and Joseph Stalin as an opponent of the idea during the post-World War II period.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balkan_Federation


This thread will outline potential REDFOR national block of Yugoslavia, Bulgaria and Romania. Ideas and thoughts are appreciated.

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Re: [Non/Future nation] Balkan Federation (Yug, Rom, Bulg)

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Yugoslavia
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Infantry
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Yugoslavian infantry features impressive sniper rifles as well as RCL units as its use of manportable ATGMS is relatively late (Fagot, Bumbar in the 90s).

Territorial Defense Force
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The Territorial Defense (TO) were a separate part of the armed forces of the former Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia. The forces acted as a Home Guard which roughly corresponded to a military reserve force or an official governmental paramilitary. Each of the Yugoslav constituent republics had its own Territorial Defense military formations, while the regular army for the whole Federation was the Yugoslav People's Army (JNA), which also maintained its own reserve forces.

The Territorial Defense or TO were formed in 1969 as an integral part of the Yugoslav Total National Defense doctrine. The TO forces consisted of able-bodied civilian males and females. Between 1 and 3 million Yugoslavs between the ages of 15 and 65 would fight under TO command as irregular or guerrilla forces in wartime. In peacetime, however, about 860,000 TO troops were involved in military training and other activities.

The TO concept focused on small, lightly armed infantry units fighting defensive actions on a familiar local terrain. A typical unit was a company-sized detachment. More than 2000 communes, factories, and other enterprises organized such units, which would fight in their home areas, maintaining local defense production essential to the overall war effort. The TO also included some larger, more heavily equipped units with wider operational responsibilities. The TO battalions and regiments operated in regional areas with artillery and antiaircraft guns and some armoured vehicles. Using their mobility and tactical initiative, these units would attempt to alleviate the pressure of enemy armored columns and air strikes on smaller TO units. In the coastal regions, TO units had naval missions. They operated some gunboats in support of navy operations. They were organized to defend strategic coastal areas and naval facilities against enemy amphibious landings and raids. They also trained some divers for use in sabotage and other special operations.

The TO was helped by the fact that most of its citizen-soldiers were one-time JNA conscripts who had completed their term of compulsory military service. But TO recruitment was somewhat limited by the JNA desire to include as many recently released conscripts as possible in its own military reserve. Other sources of TO manpower lacked prior military service and required extensive basic training.

Militia squad.

63rd Parachute Battalion/ 63. Padobranski bataljon
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The 63rd Parachute Battalion (Serbian: 63. Падобрански батаљон tr. 63. Padobranski bataljon) is one of the battalions constituting the Special Brigade[1] of the Serbian Army. It used to be of brigade-size, but it has the status of a battalion within the restructured Serbian Army. It is intended for special, reconnaissance and diversionary operations deep behind enemy lines.

Elite Paras

Military Police Battalion Cobra/ Bataljon vojne policije specijalne namene "Kobre"
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The Military Police Special Operation Battalion "Cobras" (Serbian: Батаљон војне полиције специјалне намене "Кобрe", tr. Bataljon vojne policije specijalne namene "Kobre") is a military police unit of the Serbian military, responsible for counter-terrorism, close protection and special operations.

The unit was first established by the order of the Secretary of Defense in 1978. The unit was joined with the 282nd battalion of the JNA in 1988.


Mornarička Pešadijska Brigada
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The 12th Naval Infantry Brigade (Mornarička Pešadijska Brigada) were the marines of the Yugoslav Navy until 4 February 2003 when it became part the Navy of the State Union of Serbia and Montenegro. The 12th Naval Infantry Brigade was headquartered in the 8th Naval Sector at Split but was later moved near Kotor, a coastal town in Montenegro. A small detchament was located at Novi Sad on the Danube. The brigade consisted of 900 to 2000 men in two or three battalions. As a multi-ethnic unit, the brigade was broken up during the Breakup of Yugoslavia, and it saw little action. The largest remnant eventually moved to Montenegro.


Teritorijalna Odbrana (militia) - Kar98 Rifle, M57 Rocket Launcher
Strelci 75 (line infantry) - M59/66 (SKS), M57 Rocket Launcher, M53 Sarac (MG42) 8-)
Strelci 85 (line infantry) - M70 AR, M80 Zolja, M84 PK
Mornarička Pešadijska (marines, shock, 15 men) - M70 AR, M79 Osa, M72 RPK
63. Padobranski bataljon (elite, para) - M70A AR, M79 82mm RCL or Osa, M53 Sarac (MG42)
63. Padobranski bataljon 90 (elite, para) - M92 AKSU, Bumbar ATGM, M72 RPK
Bataljon Kobre (elite, urban warfare setup) - Skorpion SMG, M80 Zolja, M76 SR
Inženjeri (engineers) - M70 AR, LPO-50 flamethrower
FIST - M70 AR, M79 82mm RCL
ATGM 90 - M70 AR, Fagot-M ATGM
MANPADS 80 - M70 AR, Strela-2M
[*]MANPADS 95 - M70 AR, Igla-1


Weapons:
Skorpion SMG
M59/66 SAR (SKS)
M70 AR
M70A folding stock AR
M92 AKSU
M77 Battle Rifle (7.51 nato cal)

M76 SR
[*]M93 Black Arrow .50 1993
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[*]RT-20 20mm 1994
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20mm Sniper Rifle :twisted:

M53 Sarac (MG42)
M84 PK
M72 RPK

AT Weapons:
M57/58 RL
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M79 82mm RCL
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M79 Osa
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patterned after the French LRAC-89.


M80 Zolja
The appearance of M-80 is very reminiscent of an American rocket launcher M-72 LAW, but from his american rival M-80 have better accuracy and effective range.


M90 (APILAS knock off)
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Fagot-M ATGM 1989
[*]Bumbar ATGM (Eryx knock off), mid to late 90s if Yugo stayed together
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The Bumbar (Bumble-bee in Yugoslavian) is a Yugoslavian ATGM with "soft-launch" with a primary ejection charge before the secondary missile propulson kicks in. Bumbar also have very good counter-jamming abilities. It also features a highly manoeuvarble direct thrust vector control system located at the missile's center of gravity. R&D were stopped in the wake of the breakup of Yugoslavia and was put on hold until later. In 2005 Yugoimport-SDPR begun marketing the extended-range version of its Bumbar (Bumble Bee) anti-armour guided-weapon system. Penetration behind ERA 1000mm of RHA system reliability higher than 90% Single-shot hit probability more than 90%

25PEN SR improved Eryx :twisted:


AA Weapons:
Strela-2M - 1981
Strela-2M/A - mid 80s?
Igla-1 1995


Wheeled Transports:
BTR-152 1962
BTR-60PB 1966
TAB-71M 1980
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BOV-VP 1980
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LOV-OP 1992
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Tracked Transports:
BTR-50 1965
M-60P 1965
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M-60PB 1970
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Dual RRs 8-)

M-60P w/ 57mm rocket pod
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BMP-1 1972

M-80 1975
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20mm AC + Dual Malyutkas-Ms

M-80A 1984
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20mm AC + Dual Malyutka-Ps

M-80AK 1990
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30mm AC + Dual Malyutka-2

[*]VIU-55 Munja 2000
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Heavy engineer APC based off T-55 hull. IRL circa 2000 development but a communist timelime could allow for this rare beauty to make an appearance :idea:

Helicopter Transports:
Mi-4A 1964
Mi-8T 1968
Mi-8TV 1973+
[*]Mi-17V 1997

Logistics

M-80A K CP 1984


LOV-Z CP 1992
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Support
Huge choice in cost effective AAA + SR SAMS with BUK for heavy air defense. Mobile 10 sec Nona artillery + heavy MLRS make it a very strong support section.

M53/59 Praga 1969
Strela-1 1978
ZSU-23-4 1978
Osa 1978
Kub 1975
Buk 1990 (only a few units delivered before war, but in timeline would get 2 cards!) 8-)
Strela-10M2J SAVA 1991
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LOV-Z Strela/ Strijela 10 CROA1 1990+?
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[*]RL-2 & 4 Mid 90s+
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Conversion of the Praga AAA to fire booster equipped R-60M & R-73 IR Missiles.

[*]TAM150 RL Mid 90s
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Truck mounted R-13S budget Chapparal ;)

BOV-3 1980
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BOV-30 1985
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[*]BOV-3 Proto
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8x Strela-2M IR SAMS. 8-)

[*]M-80SPA 1996?
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M-60P Mortar 1965+ 81mm

M7 Preist 105mm SPG 1952 8-)
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2S1 122mm SPG 1982

[*]M56A1 105mm SPG
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[*]Nona-B52 152mm SPG 1984+
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The Nora B-52 is a 155 mm/52-calibre self-propelled howitzer, 4 generation artillery weapon system developed by Vojnotehnički Institut (Military Technical Institute Belgrade, Serbia) for export and domestic use. The first self-propelled Nora B(developed on basis of Nora C) was designed by MTI in 1984 (in that time no other country except SFRY had that kind of weapon today known with acronym TMG - Truck Mounted Gun) with a modified 152 mm towed gun-howitzer NORA M84 [1] with 45 caliber gun mounted on an FAP 8x8 truck bed and was 3 generation of artillery weapons.

Modern FCS 8-)

M63 Plamen 1975
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M77 Oganj 1980
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M87 Orkan 1988
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Modern FCS 8-)

LOV-RAK 24/128 1992+
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Kosava MRL :twisted:
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Basic concept of this system is combination of the ungided general-purpose airplane bomb( in this case four Russian FAB 100, or two FAB 250) with the addition of the rocket booster engine, made from the 128mm rocket, by removing the head of the rocket (used with the FAB 100 bombs), and in the case of the FAB 250, there were four connected booster rocket engines, taken from the K-13 air to air missile. There were different versions of this weapon, with three, or four launching rails, mounted atop the TAM 150 or FAP 2026 truck.

Good HE but likely SR & inaccurate. Serb BM-24 8-)

Tanks
Probably the best REDFOR tank lineup after the Soviets.

T-34/85M
M4A3E4 Sherman 1952
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M-47 Patton 1952

T-55A 1968
T-55AM 1985

T-55AI Igman late 80s
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Yugoslav upgrade of the T-55A, intended for modernization of YPA's aging fleet of T-55s. It was using sophisticated components from M-84, local produced advanced versions of T-72, with whom it was in parallel development. Major improvements included external mounting of 2 rails for AT-3 Sagger missiles, an engine from T-72, a simplified SUV with meteosensor and laser rangefinders from M-84, addition of spaced armor on turret and front body, and installation of smoke dispensers. About 20 were made before break-up of Yugoslavia. Prototypes were impressed into regular service, however there is no data of them being used in combat.
A variant of this modification, intended for export, was armed with L7A1 105 mm gun.

Solidly updated T-55 8-)

[*]T-55H-1
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This Yugoslav upgrade is designated T-55H-1 and was not accepted for service. Only the new modular power pack MPG-780 (which can be replaced in 13 minutes) was in serial production. It is fitted to some T-55s in Yugoslavian service and was also exported to an un-named customer.


M84 Line:

M-84 1983
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M-84A 1987
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An upgraded version similar to the Soviet T-72M1 but with a significantly more powerful engine and additional armour plating. It comes with the new SUV-M-84 computerized fire-control system, including the DNNS-2 gunner's day/night sight, with independent stabilization in two planes and integral laser rangefinder. It also comes with the TNP-160 periscope, TNPA-65 auxiliary periscope, and DNKS-2 day/night commander's periscopes, as well as the TNPO-168V driver's periscope. Produced between 1988 and 1991, closely analogous to the M-84AB. Roughly 450 vehicles manufactured including the M-84AB.


M84A4 Sniper (Early 90s)

This version includes the all-new SCS-84 day/night sight, DBR-84 ballistic computer and improved elevation and traverse sensors.


M-84A(4?) ERA 1990+
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M-84A equiped with ERA which is a copy of the Russian K-1 as used on T-80BV/72AV etc. The original K-1's were obtained, together with BM-26 APFSDS rounds, in 1989 by unofficial channels from a Soviet unit stationed in East Germany.


[*]M84A5 Early/mid 90s
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Uparmoured version with israeli passive armour.


[*]T-84AB1 aka M-2001 (proto)
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The M-84AB1 is virtually identical to the T-90S. One of the differences, however, is that the M-84AB1 has the T-72M1 turret under the additional modular armour. Other differences include the new gunner's sight and the position of the radio antennae. The M-84AB1 still has the typical cross wind sensor on top of the turret.

T-90 basically :twisted: Refleks capability & Kontakt5 ERA

Vihor/Degman line:

[*]M90 Vihor Early 90s
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It's chassis strongly-resembles that of the T-72, but is topped with a totally new chevron-shaped turret with rounded edges. There are 6 roadwheels on each side.
Propulsion is provided by a V46-TK1, a Diesel V12 engine with 1 200 hp. The transmission is the same as later used in the M-95 Degman, with 5 forward gears and 1 reverse gear. It's suspension and running gear are very similar to those of the T-72, and may in fact be derived from it. With 1 200 hp propelling only 44 tonnes, the M-90 Vihor has a surprisingly-high power/weight ratio of 27.27 hp/tonne; it has been claimed that the M-90 was the first tank in history to have achieved a p/w ratio this high, but this feature had already been seen on the Leopard 2A0, General Motors XM1, and Chrysler XM1. A snorkel is fitted as well, to allow for deep-water fording.
The main gun of the M-90 Vihor is a Yugoslav-made smoothbore 125-mm gun, developed from the Soviet 2A46. It is claimed to be manufactured using novel materials and forging techniques, that allow for higher continuous rates of fire, and a longer tube life than the original 2A46. As with all smoothbore 125-mm guns, this weapon fires APFSDS, HEAT, and HE-FRAG rounds, and a gun-launched ATGM (likely the AT-8 Songster) capability was included as well. The automatic loader is all-original, and has been claimed by the developer to allow a 10 round-per-minute rate of fire. The replenisher is also an all-original model, said to contain 340 less components than the autoloaders used in the T-72 and M-84. Between the loader and the replenisher, a total of 45 rounds are carried. Secondary armament consists of an M86 7.62-mm coaxial machine gun, and an M87 "Coyote" 12.7-mm heavy machine gun on the roof.
The electronics used in the M-90 Vihor are an improvement over the M-84 as well, with a thermal imaging system, laser rangefinder, and a digital ballistics computer as standard equipment. A hunter-killer capability via the TC's periscope was claimed as well.
The armor appears to be similar to the composite type used in the M-84, and is known to contain a layer of nonmetallic material. Provisions for ERA are built into both the hull and turret. Given the outfitting of the earlier M-84, it is very likely that the M-90 was fitted with spall liners and an automatic carbon dioxide fire suppression system. Track skirts are fitted which are broader than those of the M-84, and do not taper toward the rear. The M-90 also has a collective NBC system.


[*]M-95 Degman (mid/late 90s in timeline ie without civil war)
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The M-95 Degman tank was largely based on the older M-90 Vihor tank. A full working prototype of the Vihor tank completed basic testing at the Đuro Đaković factory but due the hostilities in mid-1991 this tank was never delivered to JNA. Đuro Đaković was already working on a second prototype (at this point the hull had been completed) but due to the hostilities work on the second Vihor prototype stalled until 1994 when it was completed with the new turret.

Meanwhile, the first prototype was upgraded and modernized, a more powerful 1200 hp engine was installed which provided a higher power-to-weight ratio. A storage basket and slat armor at the back of the turret were added, increasing armour protection. A Racal communication suite was installed to improve communications range and digital battlefield compatibility and a new CBRN suite was also added, the SZ 2000 CBRN suite giving substantially superior performance over the older NBC suite used on M-84 tank; for example, in nuclear or chemical/biological warfare situations, SZ-2000 shuts the engines down and automatically filters fresh air into the tank.

The Optics and fire control system was developed by Fotona, a Slovenian company, and now comes as standard on all current Croatian and Slovene M-84 tanks. The Vihor/M95 tank received new laser range finder, LIRD-4B - a laser irradiation warning system. A Fotona/Končar/Đuro Đaković digital battlefield computer has also been added to improve battlefield performance. Diehl provided new tracks giving the tank better performance both on and off road.

This project received considerable assistance from Elbit of Israel. Explosive Reactive Armor developed by Elbit is one major upgrade and gives a distinctive look to the M95 tank. Rafael - Samson Remote Controlled Weapon Station which consist of a 12.7mm calibre heavy machine gun and 40mm grenade launcher is another upgrade. This Remote Controlled Weapon Station acts also as the commander's independent thermal viewer. Additional upgrades are planned, including a new 120mm compact gun developed by RUAG Defence of Switzerland and few additional defensive and ECM systems including LAHAT anti tank missiles.

LAHAT ATGM?! :o :twisted:

Recon

82nd Marine Center "Shadows"
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"Shadows" were Yugoslavia version of US Navy seals. They were trained in reconnaissance on sea and land, demolition, sabotage, counter terrorism, parachuting... According to some they were the best special unit in JNA. From 1977 to 1991 they were stationed in Divulje, but after Croatia declared independence they were moved to Boka Kotorska in Montenegro. After the state union of Serbia and Montenegro effectively came to an end in 2006 this unit was disbanded and parts ended up in Serbian army Special Brigade.

10 men elite recon.

82nd Shadows - M77 BR, M79 Osa, M53 Sarac (MG42)
Snajper 90 (elite) - M92 AKSU, RT-70 HSR :twisted:
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Various recon jeeps

M-8 Greyhound 1952 8-)

BTR-40 1962
PT-76 1962
T-54 1962
BRDM-2 1970

Mi-2 1969

LOV-IZV 1992+
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The LOV-IZV is the recce variant. IZV is short for Croatian word 'Izvidjacki' (Lit; Reconnaissance). This version of the LOV is equipped with a .50 calibre HMG and a double M92A1 60mm rocket launcher.


[*]BRDM-2 Kurjak post 2000?
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20mm AC + Exceptional optics

[*]M-95 Kobra Tank hunter 1995 :twisted:
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Very good optics & Konkurs-M ATGM

Vehicles

ZSU-57-2 1960
TO-55 1962

AT Jeeps w/ M65 105mm RR (1968), M79 82mm RR (1979), Schmel ATGM (1964), Faktoria/Fagot-M ATGM (1989)
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M-18 Hellcat 1952 8-)
M-36 Jackson 1952
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Su-100M 1968

BOV-1 Malyutka 1980
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M80A LT Malyutka-P 1985
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[*]Malyutka-2 available 1992

Yugoslavia purchased licence production to upgraded Malyutka-2s
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Helicopters

Mi-4AV 1973
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IAR-316B 1972
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Yugoslavian loadouts included:
2-4x 57mm LB-57 Rocket pods
2-4x 127mm L-128 rocket pods
4x Malyutka-M ATGM

SA-341H Gazelle 1971 Gama
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4x Malyutka ATGM, 2x Strela-2M IR AAM. 8-)
The helicopter squadrons are dominated by SA.341H/SA.342L Gazelles, mostly built in Jugoslavia as the Partizan. These are flown in
the anti-tank/anti-helicopter role, armed with the Soviet Sagger or Grail respectively

SA-342L Gazelle 1982 "Partizan"
Heli hunter loadout. 6x Strela-2M IR AAM (replacing Malyutka's)

[*]Mi-24V 1997
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Airforce
Small versatile tactical airforce with some interesting western addidtions including the F-86D, Maverick AGM and the Novi Avion light Rafaele like machine 8-) .

Air Superiority

F-86D 1960
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2x AIM-9B IR AAM

Mig-21bis 1977
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2xR-3S IR AAM, 4x R-60 IR AAM

Mig-29 1988
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2xR-27T IR AAM, 4xR-73 IR AAM

[*]Novi Avion 1992
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The project was started in the mid-1980s in order to make Yugoslavia fully self-sufficient in the manufacture of military equipment, and air superiority fighter jets were the only thing that Yugoslavia still had to import, having obtained the capability to build all other military equipment by the 1980s. When Yugoslavia disintegrated in 1991, the project was cancelled, since the break-up of the country made the financial resources necessary to start production of the plane unavailable.

The design was approximately one year from completion at the time of cancellation, and design of some production facilities and prototypes of some parts such as the cockpit had already been built. Had it not been cancelled, it would have had its first flight in 1992, and entered service some time in the mid 1990s.

The Novi Avion most closely resembled the French Rafale, although it was smaller and had only one engine. It was designed to fill many roles, including air superiority, interception, reconnaissance, ground attack, and anti-ship attack. Maximum speed was just under Mach 2. Super-maneuverability at both supersonic and subsonic speeds was a priority, and a major portion of the airframe was to be composed of composites.

The design was to incorporate a number of features to lower its radar cross section, although it would not have been a true stealth aircraft. The aircraft was to carry an advanced ECM/ECCM suite. It was an all-Yugoslav design, not based on any foreign plane, although France was providing some assistance with the design of the most complex parts that Yugoslavia had no experience with, such as a multipurpose radar.

The engine was to be the French Snecma M88, the same engine used in the Rafale. Most of the weapons it would have carried would probably have been either French weapons, or built with French assistance.

In air-to-air combat, Yugoslav machines will carry the new and as yet mysterious Komarac-A advanced short-range missile, which is developed with help from South Africa's Denel, thought to have recently received several millions of dollars from Belgrade. This missile is said to have features -such as lock-on-after-launch ability- enabling effective range substantially beyond that of many other IR-guided missiles, and this is just as well since Yugoslavia as yet has no true beyond visual range missile of its own in production. A current project aims to rectify this, incorporating technologies and experience with R-Darter and R-27R (AA-10 Alamo) to provide a radar guided missile for BVR engagement in the near future.

Novi Avion offered for export may mount single-barrel 20mm or 30mm cannon; carry different dumb bombs; rockets such as 57 or 80mm; AS-7 Kerry and AGM-65 Maverick air-to-surface missiles; R-60 (AA-8 Aphid), U-Darter, and A-Darter IR-guided short range air-to-air missiles; and R-27 (AA-10 Alamo) or R-Darter radar-guided beyond-visual-range air-to-air missiles.

4x Super 530D SARH AAM, 2x U-Darter IR AAM. (most commonly displayed loadout)

Anti-Tank

Mig-21F-13 1962
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2x S-24 Rocket

J-22A Orao 1983
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2x Kh-23M/ Grom 1 AGM

G-4 Super Galeb 1984
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4-5x BL-775 Cluster

Bomber

J-21 Jastreb 1967
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2x FAB-250

Mig-21MF 1965
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4xFAB-500

Mig-21PF 1967
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2xZB500 Napalm

Multi-Role

J-22B Orao 1986 (Maverick delivered in 83)
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The four under-wing hardpoints can carry two short-range air-to-air guided-missiles a piece.

2x AGM-65B Maverick AGM, 4x R-60M IR AAM

SEAD

[*]J-22C Orao 3 (proto planned for mid 90s)
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Like the Orao 2, Orao 3 is fitted with Thomson-CSF VE-120T Head-Up Display, but the new machine also realises Hands On Throttle And Stick operation. The radar and computer nav/attack system are integrated by a digital database. Iskra SO-1 Radar Warning Receiver is standard, and there is provision for up to three chaff and flare dispensers and a P10-65-13 passive jammer pod.

Air-to-Air missiles used in Yugoslav service are the advanced Komarac-A or Soviet-origin R-73 (AA-11 Archer), but other missiles such as K-13/R-3 (AA-2 Atoll), K-60/R-60 (AA-8 Aphid), and the American AIM-9 Sidewinder can be carried.

Disposable stores are extensive, and may include the following (one, or a mix on available hardpoints):
Eight LVB-250 laser-guided bombs on four dual mounts
Two Air-to-Surface Missiles, Grom-B TV-guided or passive radar homing, or AGM-65 Maverick

Grom-B air to surface missiles will provide the biggest punch in the arsenal of Yugoslav machines, with these new weapons moving from the radio guidance of the original Grom to TV guidance and passive radar homing, substantially increasing the capabilities of the air force to strike at enemy assets and engage in effective SEAD operations.

2x Grom-P/ Kh-25MP ARM, 2x R-73 IR AAM.

Other

G-2 Galeb 60s
[*]Su-25 was considered for import in mid-90s (here in Macedonian colours)
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Navy
Varied and capable brown/ greywater navy.

Rubezh Coastal ASHM (domesically produced as BROM) 1983
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Redut/Sepal Heavy Coastal ASHM 80s?
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RBS-15 Coastal ASHM aka MOL 1989
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Mi-14PL 1982

[*]NJ-22 Orao/ IJ-22 Orao ASuW 1990
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1x RBS-15 ASHM
Hypothetical but included here as Balkan Fed lacks any ASHM aircraft. The Orao could in theory carry a single RBS-15 on the centerline (800kg load).
Also very flava with a Swedish ASHM carried on a Yugoslav bird 8-)

Osa missile boat 1965

Split destroyer 1958 (cost effective gun DD)
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4x 127mm Gun, 12x 40mm Bofors AA
15rpm per 5" gun so 60 127mm rounds per minute :twisted:

Nestin-class river minesweeper/ patrol boat. 1976
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2x quad 20mm Hispano AC, Strela-2M MANPADS

Koncar missile boat 1977 (western electronics)
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2x Bofors 57mm AC, 2x Styx ASHM

Koni class light frigates 1980
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4x Styx ASHM, 2x2 76mm gun, 1x Osa-M Naval SAM, 2x AK-630 CIWS

Mirna patrol boat 1980
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1x40mm Bofors, 1x quad 20mm Hispano AC, quad Strela-2M SAM

Kotor light frigate 1986 (improved EW over Koni)
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4x Styx ASHM, 1x2 76mm DP, 1x Osa-M Naval SAM, 2x AK-230 CIWS, 2x4 Strela-2M MANPADS

Kralj-class missile boat 1992 (western electronics)
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1x Bofors 57mm AC, 1x AK-630 CIWS, 4-8 RBS-15 ASHM (here seen with 8 mounted)

Silba-class landing (supply) ship 1992 450t supplies, (well defended light supply ships)
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2x AK-230 CIWS, quad Strela-2M SAM, 1x quad 20mm Hispano AC
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Re: [Non/Future nation] Balkan Federation (Yug, Rom, Bulg)

Postby icehawk308 » Sat 24 Jan 2015 19:21

Bulgaria
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Bulgaria serves as a mini DDR in relation to Romania and Yugoslavia in the Balkan block. Yugoslavia focuses on its own armament production, and Romania in foreign collaboration, with both having interesting technology transfer with France. Bulgaria on the other hand is a staunch Soviet supporter and as such receives some privy kit not available to the usual socialist allies. Their number of troops as well as training is also considered above grade of its peers. In the coalition, Bulgaria provides mostly Soviet equipment and not too much flavour. However some of their equipment is quite top of the line and fills large holes in Balkan TOE. S-300 SAM, modern artillery (2S3M1) and good ATGMS (Metis, Faktoria, Konkurs, Shturm), potentially strong armor with T-72S, T80BV?? as well as strong airforce component, with Mig-29s, Su-25s, Mig-25RBs provide capabilities not seen by its Coalition friends. :idea:

Infantry
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Training in the Bulgarian People's Army was exhaustive even by Soviet standards

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_o ... ld_War_era
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68th Special Forces Brigade
The 68th Special Forces Brigade (Bulgarian: 68-а бригада Специални Сили) is a special operations formation of the Bulgarian Land Forces. The 68th SF Brigade is also Bulgaria's principal paratrooper unit and includes the 101st Alpine Battalion, which has participated in all conflicts involving Bulgaria.

It was established in 1942 under the name Parashutna druzhina ("Paratrooper battalion"), its initial personnel being 350 soldiers, who received their training in Nazi Germany. It was first thrown in combat in 1944, when Bulgaria already changed its allegiance from the Axis to the Allies and the Soviet Union. The Parashutna druzhina fought with the Wehrmacht in Macedonia and the 7th SS Volunteer Mountain Division Prinz Eugen, achieving several victories.

The 68th SF Brigade adopted its current structure in 1975, and until 1989 it participated in all Warsaw Pact multi-national exercises.


101st Alpine Battalion
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Bulgaria's 101st Alpine Battalion (101-ви алпийски батальон), based in Smolyan, is currently the only Bulgarian unit specialized in mountain warfare. A unique feature is their armament - Mosin-Nagant rifles, which were selected due to their excellent performance in high-altitude warfare. The battalion also has portable 60-mm mortars.

The unit is experienced in the terrain of the Rhodope Mountains, and during the Cold War it has extensively trained for operations against Greek and Turkish forces.


Naval Guard
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- marine infantry.

Simple but effective infantry lineup with shock infantry due to rigorous training, sniper equipped light infantry, powerful modern ATGMs and MANPAD systems, as well as revolver grenade launcher equipped special forces. :twisted:

пехота/Кашимерия (line infantry, shock) - AKM, RPG-7V, LMG
пехота 90/Кашимерия 90 (line infantry, shock) - AR-M1, RPG-7VR, LMG-74
военноморска охрана (marines, shock) - AKM, RPG-7VL, MG-M1
68-а бригада Специални Сили (Elite, anti-inf) - AKS-74U, Lavina 40mm GL, LMG-74 :twisted:
101-ви алпийски батальон (Light inf, shock/elite?) - AKM, SPG-9, Mossin Nagat Sniper
101-ви алпийски батальон 90 (Light inf, shock/elite?) - AR-M1, Metis ATGM, SVD
огнехвъргачка отбор (flame team) - AKM, LPO-50 flamethrower
ATGM 85 - PM-63, Faktorya ATGM
[*]ATGM 90 - AR-M1, Konkurs-M
MANPADS 75 - PM-63, Strela-2
MANPADS 85 - PM-63, Strela-3
MANPADS 90 - AR-M1, Igla-1

Inf Weapons:
PM-63 SMG
AKM
AR-M1 AR (AK-74M)
AKS-74U

Mossin Nagat Sniper
SVD

LMG (RPK)
LMG-74 (RPK-74)
MG-M1 (PKM)
Lavina 40mm AGL
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AT Weapons:
RPG-2
RPG-7V
SPG-9
RPG-22 1986
Metis 1988 8-)
Faktoria 1985 8-)
http://www.army-guide.com/eng/firm604.html
Konkurs 1988
[*]Konkurs-M 1992+

AA Weapons:
Strela-2 1976
Strela-3 1985
Ilga-1 1988

Tracked Infantry Carriers:
BTR-50 1960
OT-62 TOPAS 1962
MT-LB 1972
BMP-23 1981
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23mm AC + Malyutka ATGM

BMP-23A/D 1985
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23mm AC + Faktoria ATGM

BMP-30 1986
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30mm AC + Konkurs ATGM

[*]BMP-1P(G) 1995
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73mm gun + Konkurs-M ATGM + AGS-17 AGL 8-)

Wheeled Infantry Carriers:
BTR-152 1950
BTR-60PB 1962

Helicopter Infantry Transporters:
Mi-4A 1955
Mi-8T 1969
Mi-24D 1979
Mi-8MT 1985
Mi-17 1989

Logistics

KshTMS CP 1972
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BTR-60PAU CP 1962
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Support
Pretty standard soviet outline but 2S3M1 and S-300P change the picture entirely.

MT-LB TMX 81mm mortar
MT-LB 120mm mortar"Tundzha-Sani"
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M51 MRL 1963
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Napalm loadout?

BM-21 1968

2S1 1980-84

2S3M1 1989 :twisted:
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The 2S3M1 is a 2S3M with full datalink capabilities and computer capabilities which allow it to function as its own FDC.  This includes GPS (GLONASS) and a mapping computer.  They can also take directly from FIST instruction or function as a coordinated whole through an FDC.

The 2S3M1 is equipped with an IP-5 sight and new 1V116 data terminal which automatically displays the fire command transmitted to the battery officer's upgraded 1V13M command vehicle.

Still not to accurate by top tier arty standards (due to shorter barrel) but 10sec FCS allows for very responsive fire. Also 2 cards as non proto!

ZSU-23-4 1969
Kub 1976
Strela-1 1978
Osa AK 1985
Strela-10 1985
S-300P 1989 :twisted:
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Tanks

T-34/85

T-55A 1955
T-55AM 1976
T-55AM2 1988 (with Bastion ATGM)

T-62 1970
T-62M1 1980-85 (Bulgaria upgraded and received upgraded models during this time)

T-72M 1980
T-72M1 1989
[*]T-72A/AK 1995
[*]T-72M2 1995+
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Indigenous tank design, based on the russian T-72M1[49], with new night vision and thermal devices, improved armour (up to 650 mm) and anti-radiation cladding, rubber side skirts, C4I and IR suppression coating

Should have stats of a T-72B likely.

[*]T-72S 1995?
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TEREM also provides upgrades for the T-72 to T-72S standards.


[*]T-80BVS? 1990? 8-)
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4 T-80’s were bought during the late 1980’s for evaluation, currently they do not remain in service and were rejected for increased export, possibly for their higher pricing yet lack of significant improvements over the locally made improved T-72 models, though it may have something to do with the crash of the economy as well as Bulgarian-Soviet relations in 1989.

Rejected by the Poles as they had the Twardy on the way but Bulgaria is another story. :) Could be 2 cards if licence production is available by early 90s?

Recon

63rd Naval Special Forces Reconnaissance Detachment "Black Sea Sharks"
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T-54/55 1955/62
BTR-40 1955
PT-76 1960
BRDM-1 1965
BRDM-2 1976
PSzH-IV 1975
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BRM-23 1985
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Exceptional optics!

Mi-2 1973

Vehicles

Various Jeeps w/ B-11 RCL, SPG-9 RCL, Schmel (1962), Faktorya (1985), Konkurs (1988)

BRDM Malyutka, Konkurs

[*]Shturm-S (hypothetical but Bulgaria operated the Shturm on Mi-24Vs and licence produced the MT-LB chassis)
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Su-100 1956
ZSU-57-2 1965
TO-55 1962

T-34/62 1980 :twisted:
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Some of the tanks in storage are T34/62 hybrids of a T34/85 chassis with a T62 turret on top kept as pillboxes but still with a track compatibility and therefore eventual ability to move, some being mere pillboxes and others being in motion tanks. The whole tanks remained in active service even after 1996. 

Used as semi-mobile pillboxes along the Turkish/Greek frontier. Would work as an excellent defense unit, a cheap 20pt T-62 turret+gun in a very slow chassis. Would be an excellent cost effective defense unit. ;)

Helicopters
Mi-4A 1955
Mi-24D 1979
Mi-24V 1986
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A very interesting loadout could be 8 Kokon/ Shturm ATGMS & 2 R-73 IR AAMs in a HK mission profile. Only Yugoslavia has a A2A chopper with the Category C Strela-2 mounting Gazelle/ Partizan. Alternatively 4 R-73 with 4 Kokons is possible but almost matches the DDR bird.

Airforce

Air Superiority

Mig-23MF 1978
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2xR-23R SARH AAM, 2xR-13S IR AAM

Mig-23MLD 1983
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2xR-24R SARH AAM, 4x R-60M IR AAM

Mig-21bis-LASUR 1990
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4xR-60M IR AAM, 2x R-13S IR AAM.

Mig-29 1990
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2x R-27AE F&F AAM, 4xR-73 IR AAM. Bulgaria, being the most trustworthy in Soviet nation in coalition, should have a upgraded Fulcrum.

Anti-Tank

Mig-23BN 1976
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2xKh-23M AGM, 2x R-13S IR AAM (Kh-23 delivered with BN)

Su-25K 1986
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4x Kh-25ML AGM, 2xR-60M (Kh-25 delivered with Frogfoots)

Bomber

Mig-21PFM 1967
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2x FAB-500

Mig-21MF-75 1975
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4xZB500 Napalm

Mig-25RB 1982
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4-10x FAB-500

Multi-Role

SEAD

Su-22M4 1984
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2x Kh-29P ARM, 2-4x R-60 IR AAM.

Other

Il-28 Beagle 1958
Mig-21PF 1967
L-39ZO Albatross 1985
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Navy

4K87 "Sopka" (SSC-2B Samlet) 1963
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Rubezh 1985
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Mi-14PL 1979

Osa missile craft 1971
Tarantul missile craft 1989

Riga Frigate 1958 & thereafter (several purchased over the decades), cost effective gun frigate
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3x 100mm guns, 2x2 37mm AA, 2x2 25mm AA

Koni class light frigates 1980
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4x Styx ASHM, 2x2 76mm gun, 1x Osa-M Naval SAM, 2x AK-630 CIWS

Sonya class patrol boat/minesweeper 1981 (good escort vessels)
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2x AK-306 CIWS

Pr 773 Polnocny-C Landing (Supply?) Ships (could theoretically hold 4 ground units or 250 tons of supplies) 1986
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4x Strela-2 SAM, 2x AK-230 CIWS, 2x 140mm Orgon MLRS

Reshitelni ('Pauk I') class large patrol boats 1989
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1x 76mm DP, 1x AK-630 CIWS, quad Strela-2 SAM
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Re: [Non/Future nation] Balkan Federation (Yug, Rom, Bulg)

Postby icehawk308 » Sat 24 Jan 2015 19:22

Romania
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Due to being quite independent of Soviet policy (being a Socialist rather than Communist nation for starters & not allowing foreign troops on its soil) Romania might benefit from imports that traditional Eastern Block nations typically wouldn't. Positive business ties with France and Israel allow for several western technological transfers as in the case of China.
Romanian infantry feature a varied array of flame weapons making them the most arsonist army ingame :twisted: :mrgreen:

Infantry

Patriotic Guards/ Gărzile Patriotice
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The Patriotic Guards (Romanian: Gărzile patriotice) were Romanian paramilitary formations formed during the Communist era, designed to provide additional defense in case of outside attack.

The Patriotic Guards were staffed by about 700,000 citizens in 1989, both men and women. In keeping with the doctrine of War of the Entire People, the Patriotic Guards were a combined territorial defense or national guard and civil defense organization, which was established immediately after the Soviet-led Warsaw Pact invasion of Czechoslovakia. The Patriotic Guards worked closely with the Ministry of National Defense but were directly subordinate to the PCR and the UTC. Relying more on ordinary citizens than on the professional military, the Patriotic Guards served as a potential counterweight to or check on the power and influence of the regular armed forces.

In 1989 the Patriotic Guards were organized into company- and platoon-sized units in almost every judet, municipality, town, village, and industrial or agricultural enterprise. Under the command of the first secretary of the local PCR apparatus, they conducted basic and refresher training in small-arms handling, demolition, mortar and grenade-launcher firing, and small-unit tactics. In wartime they had responsibility for local antiaircraft defense, providing early warning of air attack, defending population centers and important elements of national infrastructure, and conducting civil engineering work as needed to reestablish essential military production after an attack. They would reconnoiter and attack enemy flanks and rear areas, combat airborne units and special forces penetrating deep into Romania, and mount resistance operations against occupying forces. In keeping with their guerrilla image, the Patriotic Guards wore plain uniforms with no insignia or badges of rank.

PM md.63 (AKM) & MG42s 8-)


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Vânători de Munte - mountain troops
Pușcași Marini - marine infantry (no shock status as defense units only)
Parasutisti - paratroopers

Detașamentul de Intervenție Rapidă (DIR)
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Detașamentul Special de Protecție și Intervenție (Ex. Detașamentul de Intervenție Rapidă, DIR) (DSPI, The Special Detachment of Protection and Intervention) of the Romanian Ministry of Defense is an elite special operations unit of the Romanian military.

During the early 1990s, a very small special operations (SOF) detachment was born within the Romanian military. It was incorporated in what was at that time the 30th Guard Brigade, or Brigada 30 Gardă "Mihai Viteazul".

Referred to simply as "the special operations subunit", this small detachment was relatively unknown, even among armed forces personnel.
DSPI is a special unit inside the military, and is formed of highly skilled individuals. A very large percentage of its members are champions in martial arts, kickboxing, athletic disciplines and so on. DSPI was, until December 2003, top secret.

DSPI operatives operate both in small 4- or 6-man teams and in larger teams, depending on the task to be performed. Although the detachment's main missions are VIP protection and anti-terrorist intervention, the unit is also capable of hostage rescue, airborne/seaborne assault and DA (Direct Action), which make it the Romanian equivalent of the British SAS, US Army's Delta Force or Israel's "Sayeret Mat'kal".

Cat A (1990+) Spec ops Uzi wielding unit. 8-)


Gărzile Patriotice (militia) - SKS, RPG-2, MG42 8-)
Motorizati (line inf) - PM md. 63, RPG 7V, Cugir
Parasutisti (shock, para) - PM md. 65, RPG 7VM, md.64
Parasutisti 90 (shock, paras) - PM md. 86 cu, RPG 7VR, md.93
Pușcași Marini (marine, 15men) - PM md. 86, RPG 7V, md.64
Vânători de Munte (mountain, light inf) - PM md. 63, AG-9, Cugir
Vânători de Munte 90 (mountain, light inf) - PM md. 86, AG-9VNT (w/PG-9VNT tandem heat warhead), md.93
DIR (elite) - Mini Uzi, Deva 40mm GL w/ incendiary grenade or LGEI-99 Snake, md.93 :twisted:
Geniști 75 (engineers) - PM md. 63, LPO-50 flamethrower
Geniști 80 (engineers) - PM md. 63, AGI 3x40
[*]Geniști 90 (engineers) - PM md. 63, LGEI-99 Snake FAE or RPG-7 EI FAE
Echipa de Suport - PM md 63, RPG-7VL
[*]Echipa de Suport - PM md 86, LGEI-99 Snake
ATGM 80 - PM md.63, Fagot ATGM
ATGM 90 - PM md.86, Konkurs ATGM
MANPADS 80 - PM md.63, CA-94 SAM
MANPADS 90 - PM md.86, CA-94M SAM

Weapons:
Pistol Mitralieră model 1963 (PM md.63)
Pușcă Automată model 1986 (AIMS-74)
PA md. 86 cu țeavă scurtă (AKS-74U)

PSL Sniper

Cugir (PKM)
Puşcă Mitralieră model 1964 (RPK)
Puşcă Mitralieră model 1993 (RPK-74)

Flame Weapons: Romanians sure do love to play with fire :twisted:
AGI 3x40 1973

[*]Deva 40mm GL w/ incendiary grenade
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It was presented an incendiary grenade caliber 40 mm, made from plant Tohan Mechanics and Mechanical Plant Plopeni as part of the range of ammunition for grenade launcher with a blow AG-40 model.80 (mounted automatic rifle) product Mechanical Plant Cugir or semi-automatic grenade thrower 6 shots revolving product Mechanical Plant Deva, today disappeared.


[*]AG-7 incendiary grenade.
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Port grenade
Now Carfil Brasov product antitank grenade launcher AG-7 incendiary blow weighing 2.2 kg, incendiary substance gros 550 cm3, length 920 mm, spanking maximum distance 1500 m and 500 m maximum direct blow


[*]LGEI-99 Snake FAE
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FAE warhead variant.

[*]PG 7 EI THERMOBARIC (unsure of entry date)
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RPG-7 FAE round.


AT Weapons:
AG-7 (RPG-7)
PG-7VM warhead for AG-7(Romania produces it)
The PG-7VM HEAT round was originally developed in the Soviet Union in 1969. An improved version of the earlier PG-7V HEAT round (the ‘M’ stands for Modernizirovanii, or ‘modernised’), the PG-7VM is capable of defeating 300mm of RHA whilst weighing in at 1.98kg, 270g less than it’s predecessor. It is 52mm longer than the PG-7V, and has a smooth, rather than fluted, nose cone. It is also a narrower design, with a diameter of 70mm, allowing for more projectiles to be carried in the ‘quiver’ type backpacks occasionally used to transport RPG rounds and making the projectile somewhat less susceptible to crosswinds. The range of the PG-7VM is comparable to the PG-7V at around 350m. The primary explosive compound is A-IX-1, a phlegmatised compound consisting of 96% RDX and 4% paraffin wax. The warhead is fuzed with the VP-7M PIBD fuze.

AG-9 (SPG-9)
Fagot (mid 80s)
Konkurs (90?)
[*]LGEI-99 Snake 1995
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It was a 99mm RPG, that employed a countermass system similar to that in the German Armbrust RPG, which allegedly made it very quiet, flashless, smokeless, near-recoilless, and able to be fired from an enclosed space as small as 3m x 3m. The manufacturer was Turbomecanica.

Portable grenade launcher termobarice cal.99 mm (this launcher, known in the literature under the trade name deLGEI-99 SNAKE, is credited with a cumulative strike can pierce armor 420 mm equivalent RHA8 (no upgrades) from the same sources resulting in the launch produce a small amount of smoke and a slight noise to avoid unmasking the drawer) The weight of 9,5 kg is loaded, grenade weight was 4 kg total length of 1.4 m, maximum 1100 m spanking ,. Although it is difficult to manufacture, involving low manufacturing tolerances worldwide, yet it is feasible in the country and the producer is Turbomecanica Bucharest


AA Weapons:
Strela-2(CA-94) 1978
CA-94M (Strela-2M?)

Wheeled Transports:

BTR-152 1951
TAB 71 1971
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TAB 71M
TAB 77 1977?
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[*]TAB 77 [BMP] (proto, BMP-1 turret)
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[*]TAB 77 M1983 (proto)
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30mm AC + Malyutka ATGM

[*]TAB 77 M1984 (proto)
23mm AC + Malyutka ATGM

B33 Zimbru (BTR-80) 1988
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[*]RN-94 1994 (proto)
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25mm mm Giat Dragar turret

Tracked Transports:

BTR-50
MLVM 1980
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[*]MLVM-25 (Rafael 25mm AC) 1994
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MLI-84 (BMP-1 w/ DshK hmg) 1985
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[*]MLI-84M [Malyutka] 1995
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25mm AC + Malyutka-2 ATGM

Logistics

TAB-71A R-1450 command vehicle 71+?
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TAB-77A R-1451/M command vehicle 77+?
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MLI-84 CP
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MLVM-ABAL Armored Supply APC
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2,100 kg

Helicopter Transports:

Mi-4 1956
IAR-330/ SA-330 Puma 1978
IAR-330L – from 1977 onward (upgraded versions) – armed with 2x23 mm cannons, 2 x 16x57 mm PRNDs

Mi-8T 1970

Support
An excellent selection or mortars

TAB-71AR mortar carrier (81mm) aka TAB-73 (1973)
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TABC-79AR mortar carrier (81mm)
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MLVM-AR mortar (120mm) 1982+
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[*]RN-94 Mortar (120mm) 1994+
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ISU-152 8-)
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was in artillery equipment of the three divisions of tanks (6.7 and 57 ) until the early * 90.

Used as a artillery piece & mounting a howitzer. Would match NK 152mm in performance.

Model 89 SPG 1989
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[*]ROMARM ATROM (proto) 2000-2003
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Israeli collaboration 50 cal wheeled SPG. Romanian Ceasar 8-)

M-51/R-2 130mm MRL 1956
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Napalm MRL?

APR-40 1975?
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[*]Awora/Aurora MRLS 1989 (proto?)
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A derivative of APRA-40 launcher AURORA APR was created in the mid * 80, but not never entered mass production, although stranger was unveiled in 1989 at an exhibition of weapons in Iraq. It is not known with certainty if, besides prototype were manufactured and other systems, but it was mounted on all-terrain vehicle chassis ARO, with 12 launch tubes, using rocket M 21-OF-S (it looks like was a shorter version of the original rocket, hence the significance of the letter S = short / simplified).

This Romanian vehicle is a lighter version of the 122mm multiple rocket launcher, carrying fewer and lighter tubes on a light truck chassis. It was just entering service in 1997, often in light and airmobile divisions, as it is light enough to be sling loaded by a medium-lift helicopter. This vehicle is equipped with a small but powerful fire control computer that allows it to fire accurately without an FDC if the target location is known.

Modern FCS 12 tube light MRLS.

OSA 1980
OSA-AK 1990
Kub SAM 1980
CA-95 SAM 1979
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4 reloads?!

ZSU-57-2 1965
[*]GDF-D03 (hypothetical proto) 1998
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Romania purchased GDFs in 1996-8

Tanks

T-34/85 1952
T-55A/TR-580 1970
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T-55AM1977
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TR-580M 1979
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TR-85 1985
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The TR-85 is base on the T-55. It has a new, longer chassis with more powerful engine. The turret is almost the same, but is equipped with a new fire control system. It has a combat weight of 43.3 tonnes.


TR-85M1A 1990?
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The early prototypes of the TR-85M1 were known as the TR-85M1A.
The add-on armour of these tanks had a different shape and was welded, the turret bustle had a different shape and the fume extractor on the barrel was in a different position.


[*]TR-85M1 BIZONUL 1996
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New engine, FCS, ERA

T-72 Ural 1979
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TR-125 1987
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This is the Romanian version of the T-72 which has a number of significant differences to the original Soviet MBT. The TR-125 weighs 48 tons, due to increased armour protection over the frontal arc. It has seven road wheels of a different design, a new one piece skirt and is powered by a more powerful 880hp diesel engine.
The Romanians only built a handful (three at most) and the type never went into actual service.

Also much different hull visible in second image.

[*]TR-125M 1991


[*]T-21 Giat (proto)
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OR AC equipped variant so Romanian Moderna :twisted:
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Light leclerc type turret on a T-125 chassis :twisted:

[*]KMW TR-2000 B1
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Project TR-2000 appears to have been a continuation of the project TR-125 , at least at first, Krauss-Maffei in the firm Wegmann was involved to find some variants of solutions. It is said that in 1994 KMW received confirmation of the Romanian state at baseline, but the German government has given its consent or as late as 1996, the year in which KMW actually started working. Costs study seemed to be approaching 3 million. Deutsche Mark, which was not an exorbitant amount, practical study of reusing existing solutions both in the German and in the Romanian.

Option B1 , the simplest and cheapest, seems to be re-TR-125's chassis being shortened to just 6 buckets (or a modified form of the TR-85) with a turret probably derived from the Leopard 2A4, but with a frontal armor more reminiscent of the tank Challenger or C1 Ariete , the back of the turret with similar changes repository solution for the TR-85M1. It is possible that the turret was in fact a modification of the initial TR-125 (as preserved remains unclear whether or not Autoloader) applied the model of TR-85 M1 variant. The engine was probably an upgraded version of 1000CP, the one originally intended to TR-125. 125mm cannon product Resita plants were kept. Thinking about how capable it was a 125mm cannon technology manufactured by Rheinmetall in Resita, having the advantage of being able to use stocks of ammunition and former Soviet or former Warsaw Pact! Overall, B1 solution seems more a major change in TR-85 (M2) than the TR-125.

TR-125 hull with a 125mm Ariette like turret. 8-)

Recon

Trupele de Grăniceri
As mentioned in the infantry writeup, the Frontier troops are a 17,000 strong border guard subordinated to the interior ministry.

Trupele de Grăniceri (reserve recon) - PM md.63, RPG-2

ABI
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BRDM-2 1975
BTR-40 1964

TABC-79
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TAB-77 PCOMA
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Very good optics

TAB-79A POMA
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Very good or exceptional optics?

SA-316B Alouette-3/ IAR-316B 1972

[*]IAR-317 Airfox 1984 8-)
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2x 12.7mm MG, 6x Malyutka ATGM, 57mm Rocket Pods

Vehicles

[*]ARO240D AGI 1988 (proto)
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Another incendiary grenade launcher was approved in 1988 as the reactive grenade launcher cal. 73 mm mounted on the car ARO 240 D. Launcher was developed as a tripied that 3 blocks were mounted launchers with four pipes, horse. 73 mm. Blocks launchers could be used both separately and mounted launcher. The launcher has a mass of 112 kg charge and mass of a block of 4 pipes 12 kg.

Beating the maximum is 1600 m. Normally use launcher mounted on a car ARO 240 D changed.

12 shot short range flame weapon. However quite modern and looks stabilized so potentially good accuracy. Wheeled fire spitting buggies :twisted:

TAA Md. 85 – 1985 (Prototype tank destroyer, researched to replace SU-100 and ISU-152) (proto)
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1x100mm rifled gun; TAA stands for Self Propelled Anti-Tank Gun. This is a very interesting find and will probably be a unique type of unit compared with other NWSP, only Norov looks similar.
MLI-84 hull (extended BMP-1 hull) with 100 mm AT gun ; according with description it was meant to hit tanks and other targets trough direct shots or from covered position (so it can be used as mobile arty). TAA stands as abreviation for Self Propelled Anti-Tank Gun.



Su-76
Regiment 10 was in equipment Autotunuri from Targoviste, and subsequently endowment autotunuri battery from infantry regiments (each 6 pcs), with one battalion gun ZIS-3. He remained in equipping many years, until 1998, becoming even "star" of the film (a film directed by Sergiu Nicolaescu appeared in "The Last Assault" made in 1985).

Su-100 1955
TO-55 1960
ZSU-57-2 1065

BRDM-2 Falanga (1964), Malyutka (1978), Konkurs (80),
[*]Malyutka-2 (1992)
BRDM-2 Maliutka M2T - local upgraded version with tandem warheadm similar with Milan 2T


[*]B-33 Zimbru / RN-94 CRAT w/ Maliutka M2T ATGM (1992+)
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Various Jeep ATGMs & RR: B-10, B-11, SPG-9, Fagot ATGM

Helicopters

IAR-316B 1973

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The IAR 316 was modified to carry weapons more common in the Eastern-bloc, such as 57mm rocket pods, 7.62mm machine guns, and anti-tank missiles.


IAR_330L Gunship Late 80s
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2x 23mm AC, 4x Malyutka, 4x 16x57 mm PRNDs

[*]IAR-330L SOCAT 1998
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20mm AC, 8-16x Spike-ER ATGM, 2x R-60M :twisted:

Airforce

Air Superiority

Mig-19PM 1960
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4x K-5 SARH AAM.

Mig-21PFM 1966/77 (K-55/A-90 manufacture date)
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2x K-55/A-90 SARH AAM, 2x R-13S IR AAM

Mig-29 1989
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2x R-27 SARH AAM, 4x R-73 IR AAM.

Anti-Tank

Mig-21F-13 1962
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2x S-24 Rocket

IAR-93A Vultur 1979
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4x LPR 57 Rocket Pod

IAR-93B Vultur 1987
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2-4x A-921/Kh-23M AGM

[*]Mig-21 Lancer 1996/97 (aircraft/bomb deliver date)
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2x OPHER LGB, 2x R-73 IR AAM.

Bomber

Il-28/H-5 Bomber 1971
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1x FAB-3000 bomb 8-)

IAR-93MB Vultur 1982
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4x ZB500 Napalm

Multi-Role

Mig-23MF 1980
2x Kh-23M AGM, 4x R-60 IR AAM.

SEAD

Other

L-39ZA Albatross 1981
Mig-15/ S-102 1953
IAR-99 Soim 1987
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IAR-95 Spey (proto)
The IAR 95 Spey was a Romanian project to produce a supersonic fighter jet for the Romanian Air Force. The project was started in the late 1970s and cancelled in 1981. Shortly after, the project was restarted again. The project was cancelled for good in 1988 due to lack of funds before a prototype could be built, although a full-scale mockup was being constructed.

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Naval
Varied coastal focused navy.

Mi-14PL 1985

Osa missile boat 1964
Shanghai class patrol boat 1972
Tarantul missle boat 1990

Constanta ('Croitor') class patrol craft tenders 1980 (large supply ships)
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1x2 57mm AAA, 2x AK-230 CIWS, Strela-2M MANPADS,

Amiral Petre Barbuneanu ('Tetal-I') class corvettes 1983
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2x76mm DP, 2x AK-230 CIWS, 2x4 14.5mm HMG

Marasesti class frigate 1985
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8x Styx ASHM, 2x2 76mm DP, 4x AK-630 CIWS,

Smârdan-class river monitor 1988
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1x 100mm tank turret, 2x2 23mm AAA, 2x2 & 2x4 14.5mm HMG, 2 × 40 × 122 mm MRL, Strela-2M MANPADS

Contre-Amiral Eustatiu Sebastian ('Tetal-II') class corvettes 1989 (good CIWS escorts)
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1x AK-176 gun, 4x AK-630 CIWS

Mihail Kogalniceanu class large river monitors 1993 (heavy river gunboat 8-) )
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1x2 100mm Tank turret, 2x2 23mm AAA, 2x4 14.5mm HMG, 2 × 40 × 122 mm MRL, Strela-2M MANPADS
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Re: [Non/Future nation] Balkan Federation (Yug, Rom, Bulg)

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Re: [Non/Future nation] Balkan Federation (Yug, Rom, Bulg)

Postby 47andrej » Sat 24 Jan 2015 19:46

Waiting eagerly for Yugoslavia.

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Re: [Non/Future nation] Balkan Federation (Yug, Rom, Bulg)

Postby Mike » Sat 24 Jan 2015 20:10

MadMat has unit list for all these countries for ALB if you want to get a head start.

Romania & Bulgaria.
viewtopic.php?f=104&t=44828

Yugoslavia.
viewtopic.php?f=104&t=44808
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Re: [Non/Future nation] Balkan Federation (Yug, Rom, Bulg)

Postby icehawk308 » Sat 24 Jan 2015 20:36

Mike wrote:MadMat has unit list for all these countries for ALB if you want to get a head start.

Romania & Bulgaria.
viewtopic.php?f=104&t=44828

Yugoslavia.
viewtopic.php?f=104&t=44808


Oh already aware, going to use these as a baseline. Still working on Greece as well for MEDFOR, but found a few goodies for the balkan block already 8-)

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Re: [Non/Future nation] Balkan Federation (Yug, Rom, Bulg)

Postby T80U = tankbankai » Sat 24 Jan 2015 20:37

Feel free to steal anything from the thread linked in my sig.
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Re: [Non/Future nation] Balkan Federation (Yug, Rom, Bulg)

Postby icehawk308 » Sat 24 Jan 2015 21:40

T80U = tankbankai wrote:Feel free to steal anything from the thread linked in my sig.


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