Awaiting arrival of new MBTs

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Re: Awaiting arrival of new MBTs

Postby another505 » Sat 9 May 2015 08:23

ikalugin wrote:Hence why I say that the Kharkiv desighn differed significantly from other Soviet (291/292), US (TTB/CATTB/block 3) and Russian (195/640) desighns in terms of layout.

Armata being derived from the 195 also differs from the Kharkiv desighn.

As the new SPG was mentioned, did I by any chance mention it's new capabilities? Is anyone interested in those?

nope, you didnt mention it, sad it isnt double gun :lol:

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another505 wrote:also, why the transition from 12.7 to 7.62 anti aircraft mg ?


How far I know T-15 Armata and Kurganets-25 now use a weapon-module from APS-Bumerang because their own modules with heavier weapon - 57mm or 40mm guns - still in development. Really our military puts this modules from APS on another stuff for test a electronic systems, which will be same on every type of weapon-module, like fire-control-system, AI-elemets, ets.


well, im talking about the T-14 tank, i doubt you will place a 57mm gun on it lol
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Re: Awaiting arrival of new MBTs

Postby hansbroger » Sat 9 May 2015 08:45

Fade2Gray wrote:I just realized something...

is it possible to watch the Parade live on the internet? If so, where? RT? Also, what time? Or any other news channel on the boob tube? I heard around 2200 local time, but I'm not sure.

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Re: Awaiting arrival of new MBTs

Postby Fade2Gray » Sat 9 May 2015 10:08

hansbroger wrote:
Fade2Gray wrote:I just realized something...

is it possible to watch the Parade live on the internet? If so, where? RT? Also, what time? Or any other news channel on the boob tube? I heard around 2200 local time, but I'm not sure.

Definitely RT


Yeah, watching it on RT right now. The Armata already rolled by, just visited the part with the navy at the port city.
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Re: Awaiting arrival of new MBTs

Postby Col_Sandfurz » Sat 9 May 2015 11:49

ikalugin wrote:Hence why I say that the Kharkiv desighn differed significantly from other Soviet (291/292), US (TTB/CATTB/block 3) and Russian (195/640) desighns in terms of layout.

Armata being derived from the 195 also differs from the Kharkiv desighn.

As the new SPG was mentioned, did I by any chance mention it's new capabilities? Is anyone interested in those?

Will it share the same chassis as the new T-15
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Re: Awaiting arrival of new MBTs

Postby SpeisCheese » Sat 9 May 2015 14:26

https://youtu.be/Gmn6VkK9RkA?t=2h32m54s
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Re: Awaiting arrival of new MBTs

Postby ikalugin » Sat 9 May 2015 14:35

So about the new SPG.

It uses the new standard 152/52 gun, with improved ballistics (ie improved chamber pressure) over the older systems, making it not entirely compatable with those. Because crew is in a separate compartment from the gun system, munitions are loaded completely by an autoloader, with modular propellant charges (ie in a simmilar way to the NLOS-C).

The SPG also carriers the new radar station for tracking it's own projectiles (and thus determiningood their exact flight path for adjusting the fires), as well as for feeding the correction commands into the fuses, which increase/decrease drag and thus improve accuracy.
http://savepic.net/6362813.jpg

Some of the new munition types:
http://savepic.net/6408892.jpg
New HE-FRAG
New increased ranged HE-FRAG
New cluster munitions round
Illumination round
Smoke/incindieary round
Concrete piercing round
Thermobaric round
ECM round

The regular HE rounds have 30+ km range, the improved range projectiles have 50km class range and special munitions having 70 km class range. The Glonas round (already tested) is not shown on the image above. Current desighns in the work are the ones with the extended range + Glonas + SALH and the new Glonas guided fuse for the regular rounds (making it the JDAM ish kit).

Sources - Internet leaks, http://m.rg.ru/2015/05/07/koalitsiya-site-anons.html this article.
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Postby Kraxis » Sat 9 May 2015 14:52


Heh, that profile. :D
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Re: Awaiting arrival of new MBTs

Postby ikalugin » Sat 9 May 2015 14:53

We are not known for doing good promotional materials. Plus the external looks of the SPG was probably classified at the time.
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Postby Killertomato » Sat 9 May 2015 14:56

ECM round


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Re: Awaiting arrival of new MBTs

Postby Vulcan 607 » Sat 9 May 2015 14:58

Killertomato wrote:
ECM round


?


Probably a chaff round I have not heard of a shell with jamming capabilities but you never know

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