delfo wrote:They volunteered to join that profession and they do it on a professional level. Yes we expect firemen and policemen to do their job at a level above that a of a part time volunteer. We didn't put a gun to their loved ones to forcefully conscript them and then drop a can of human waste on their heads for not doing so well.
And it's not "They get paid so bleep them." It's "They willing joined a career that requires as a base level to perform way above the norm for other people so if they fall short of that sack em"
And I see a concern about the overall image of the police on the other side of the Atlantic. Well that is what happens when you have systemic institutional failure all over the country regardless of the state or city. It tends to be perceived as problem of the police force as a system. Rather than an isolated incident. A series of continuing incidents with similar bias is a pattern.
Yet you and others do attempt to drop a can of human waste on their heads by demonizing police as a whole for the failures of some individuals while never acknowledging the necessity of their job or acknowledging the successes.
I don't care what the Europeans think of our police. This "systemic institutional failure" you speak of doesn't have anything to do with the police. The systemic institutional failure is the culture that consistently creates thugs like those that get caught up in most of these incidents. The systemic institutional failure is what enables crooks like Al Sharpton and the other vultures circling overhead. There are some bad cops out there just like you have bad players in every single job in the world. Instead there is this race-baiting narrative fed to us by some aspects of society who seem hell bent on enabling a permanent underclass.
Given the fact that I have seen issues vetting basic things in the police training such as looking at prior record, blatant racism, tendency to use excessive force I'd say it's not the individuals. It's the wholesale failure of the system to prevent bad individuals from getting a badge or riding shotgun in the car. That is why it is a systemic failure.
There's a test for ethnicity in the US these days. It measures how much time you spent talking about there not being racism, number of racism related one liners and referring to subsets of the population in demeaning manner( I believe you said permanent underclass).
PS still don't get why the plastic crap in the chocolate egg can't come with a warning label like children's toys or things that have huge signs "keep away from small children." They also sell bleach in supermarkets and some it has bad packaging and at that age kids would try almost anything. So those come with huge labels.