FIFA scandal. Plus CIA conspiracy theory!

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Postby LoneRifle » Thu 28 May 2015 19:58

delfo wrote:However wasn't that the reason why the landed within the jurisdiction of the US DoJ. As the transactions were through US banks. And the charge explicitly states that money laundering was involved. If the banks were that involved is up for grabs but at this point is it not an unreasonable option especially when the DoJ has stated it is reviewing their involvement? Remember when you answer the question to start by insulting me personally. That is how I will know you care about me.


It's just stupid to say a US bank is complicit in a crime like this without having actual evidence. They would be arresting bank officials as well at this point years into the sting since they just arrested the FIFA officials. While you are correct that funds went through US banks, that's just the medium of funds transfer and is carte blanche for the US to go after the FIFA officials. The SEC and FBI don't fuck around, if they had been complicit, we would have found out by now and there would be arrests in the USA.
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Postby Mitchverr » Thu 28 May 2015 20:13

Fifa find a new source of income.

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Postby Admiral Piett » Thu 28 May 2015 20:28

This is the most interesting soccer has ever been for me.

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Postby LoneRifle » Thu 28 May 2015 20:37

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-32889845
Fifa scandal: Why the US is policing a global game

Especially poignant considering you have European heads of state and foreign ministers chiming in, and the most you get out of the US is the head of the FBI saying "they broke the law here so we arrested them". Soccer just doesn't have the massive pull in America to make it a cultural minefield like in Europe. It's just business to America.
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Postby Fade2Gray » Thu 28 May 2015 20:47

Admiral Piett wrote:This is the most interesting soccer has ever been for me.


:lol:

Ditto.
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Postby REDDQ » Thu 28 May 2015 20:48

Mitchverr wrote:Fifa find a new source of income.

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:lol: :lol: :lol:

That is golden.

No mercy for those bastards. Last time Poland tried to deal with corruption in our own football we were threatened we will be banned from international tournaments.

So, who else than Murica? They even called "football" the wrong sport 8-)


To be fair about FIFA 16 though, it will future the biggest innovation in whole sixteen years of development.

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Postby frostypooky » Thu 28 May 2015 20:55

http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/28/politics/ ... index.html

:roll:

USA is evil for indicting people it believed to be laundering bribe money through its banks... yet Russia can parade around a kidnapped Estonian security officer or shot down U___ pilot who was party to conflict they insist they have no part of...

powder keg lit, let the US-Russia rant fest commence

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Postby delfo » Thu 28 May 2015 20:58

LoneRifle wrote:
delfo wrote:However wasn't that the reason why the landed within the jurisdiction of the US DoJ. As the transactions were through US banks. And the charge explicitly states that money laundering was involved. If the banks were that involved is up for grabs but at this point is it not an unreasonable option especially when the DoJ has stated it is reviewing their involvement? Remember when you answer the question to start by insulting me personally. That is how I will know you care about me.


It's just stupid to say a US bank is complicit in a crime like this without having actual evidence. They would be arresting bank officials as well at this point years into the sting since they just arrested the FIFA officials. While you are correct that funds went through US banks, that's just the medium of funds transfer and is carte blanche for the US to go after the FIFA officials. The SEC and FBI don't fuck around, if they had been complicit, we would have found out by now and there would be arrests in the USA.


However very often the FBI and the SEC and the DoJ have been know to more or less bleeped around in regards to banks. And the DoJ said it is probing the banks connected to it in a pending investigation.

Especially poignant considering you have European heads of state and foreign ministers chiming in, and the most you get out of the US is the head of the FBI saying "they broke the law here so we arrested them". Soccer just doesn't have the massive pull in America to make it a cultural minefield like in Europe. It's just business to America.


Don't think that anyone absolutely anyone in Europe likes them. The only countries defending them are the two that got the games simply because otherwise they would have to throw away 50 billion USD already spent on stadiums and preparation. Europe is in no way fond of them. They have screwed half the world several times over with the same bribes and schemes. And you only get to see the world cup. There's smaller national tournaments on all continents. Then you have the club championships. And all over those there's corruption. It's not a minefield in any way shape or form in regards to the sport people who adore the sport will still say yeah throw them in jail. FIFA isn't about the sport. It's about milking the money in the dirtiest way possible.

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Postby Vulcan 607 » Thu 28 May 2015 21:00

Mitchverr wrote:Fifa find a new source of income.

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It will be like grand theft auto

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Postby LoneRifle » Thu 28 May 2015 21:11

delfo wrote:However very often the FBI and the SEC and the DoJ have been know to more or less bleeped around in regards to banks. And the DoJ said it is probing the banks connected to it in a pending investigation.


What banks? Banks fear the FBI and SEC. Not the other way around.


Don't think that anyone absolutely anyone in Europe likes them. The only countries defending them are the two that got the games simply because otherwise they would have to throw away 50 billion USD already spent on stadiums and preparation. Europe is in no way fond of them. They have screwed half the world several times over with the same bribes and schemes. And you only get to see the world cup. There's smaller national tournaments on all continents. Then you have the club championships. And all over those there's corruption. It's not a minefield in any way shape or form in regards to the sport people who adore the sport will still say yeah throw them in jail. FIFA isn't about the sport. It's about milking the money in the dirtiest way possible.


The USA was the one to kick in the door. And yet it's still the European politicians making all the noise now, Americans don't care. It's backpage news here which is what is so bad. So obviously something was up otherwise they would have been dealt with long before pissing off the FBI enough to launch an international investigation.
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