Iris wrote:The Confederate flag in its original inception had no racial undertones, and if there are people in the United States that wanna walk around screaming Southern pride over a pretty nice looking flag without lynching black folk, burning down their churches, and enslaving / oppressing them....then why in the hell does anybody care whether the jolly old redneck has a Confederate flag on his porch?
The Iron Cross / Eisernes Kreuz and Balkan Cross / Balkenkreuz are still used by skinheads, white supremacists, anti-semites, etc. As are many other pieces of German history. I have never seen anybody claim that the Iron Cross or Balkan Cross are racist symbols, and in fact, they're very popular symbols to this day. The Confederate Flag is used by racists and has been used by racists, but the official United States flag has been used by racists since it's inception.
Being a military History buff and one of the few Europeans whom visited the Gettysburg battlefield twice
(and whom brought a Dixie flag as a souvenir
), I do understand people being mad about the treatment given to the CSA flag.
Yet, there are some differences here with the Balkenkreuz
The Dixie flag, like the nazi svaztika, are symbols impossible to dissociate with the short-lived States they represented: the CSA and the Third Reich. They represent those States, and both those States are (for more or less accurate reasons for the Confederacy) symbols of horrors mankind can inflict to his own.
On the other hand, the Balkenkreuz
or cross pattée
has its root back in the Teutonic Order, then the German Campaign of 1813 (which, depending of where you live, might be called Befreiungskriege
to some of you
). And in its exact same shape as WW2, was already the symbol of the Red Baron in WW1.
used, and somehow soiled, an existing symbol. The Dixie flag & swaztika were designs made purposedly for the States they became the symbols of.
Now, if you really want to prohibit symbols too reminiscent of the Third Reich in Germany, I would suggest one to leave the Balkenkreutz
where it belong on German Panzers & planes, and start removing that:
Night torch march!
--> all things screaming SS to ... well everybody I guess.
That said, I find it funny how the USA are campaigning against that poor old Dixie flag as the source of all evil, because it appears on the pictures postes by the killer. Am I the only one out here spotting that, on most of them, he also had ... a gun!
All things considered, to avoid a further killing spree, wouldn't it be wiser to ban the gun instead of the flag? I mean, removing the flag will leave the next killer with less inspiration maybe, but still the tools to perform his massacre. While, if the guns were removed, the would-be killer will have a harder job killing people with a flag on a pole. Besides, it would give him away from afar ...