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Re: #MakeAmericaGreatAgain

Postby Admiral Piett » Wed 9 Nov 2016 23:06

Obamacare will likely be killed as well of course, along with anti-climate change efforts.

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Re: #MakeAmericaGreatAgain

Postby Frencho » Wed 9 Nov 2016 23:27

I wonder is there are any penalties for revoking or voiding COP 21 Paris treaty on climate change since the Obama administration ratified it.

And I'm pretty sure the TTIP is dead for good and TTP might not be ratified.
Because Trump's grasp on trade is so 17th century, textbook zero-sum game mercantilism, that and obscene Rococo display of wealth. How French of him :lol:

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Postby Admiral Piett » Wed 9 Nov 2016 23:40

Yeah, TPP is dead, but it was pretty evident that was DoA anyway.

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Re: #MakeAmericaGreatAgain

Postby nWODT_Niack » Thu 10 Nov 2016 00:41

Vulcan 607 wrote:
Fade2Gray wrote:Meanwhile, in Russia...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wor ... s-victory/

the irony.


So they are not worried they helped an unstable idiot get his hands on the U.S. military?
If I was in the Baltic I would start laying land mines and digging in.
As for the rest of nato I would begin immediate rearmament. Which may happen anyway to appease trump but looking at the gaps the U.S. covers for a lot of NATO forces going to war without the U.S. would be tricky.

No, they aren't too worried. Notwithstanding the possible ties he may or may not have with russian interests, one of the only constants (or near constants) Trump had during the campaign was that he is openly isolationist. An isolationist USA means an opportunity for Russia to extend it's sphere of influence, by any means they deem necessary.
Simple as that.

Vulcan 607 wrote:At the moment NATO without the US would win [...]

That... is a bold statement.
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Re: #MakeAmericaGreatAgain

Postby Fade2Gray » Thu 10 Nov 2016 01:22

The hate against the Libertarians and the Green Party for "throwing the election" is amusing to behold. Unless they have solid proof that the votes would have gone to HRC, the attempt to put the blame anywhere else but on HRC's failings is totally unfounded.

If your candidate didn't earn the vote, then they didn't earn the vote. Don't like it? Too bad. Would it have been better if they simply had not voted? Where is all the hate for those who simply stayed home?

I dislike Jill Stein greatly, same with the rest of the Green Party, but they are right, the Democratic Party botched the election, not the Greens. Face it, HRC point blank sucked.
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Postby Admiral Piett » Thu 10 Nov 2016 01:25

Fade2Gray wrote:The hate against the Libertarians and the Green Party for "throwing the election" is amusing to behold. Unless they have solid proof that the votes would have gone to HRC, the attempt to put the blame anywhere else but on HRC's failings is totally unfounded.

If your candidate didn't earn the vote, then they didn't earn the vote. Don't like it? Too bad. Would it have been better if they simply had not voted? Where is all the hate for those who simply stayed home?


Yeah, exactly. Millions fewer Democratic voters turned up in 2016 compared to 2012. If someone wanted to vote Libertarian, then that was their right. At least they voted, and didn't sit at home and bitch about how other people voted on Reddit without any sense of irony.

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Postby orcbuster » Thu 10 Nov 2016 01:33

Vote shaming for not voting for a candidate they did not believe but rather someone they believed in is indeed disgusting.
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Postby Killertomato » Thu 10 Nov 2016 01:36

Fade2Gray wrote:The hate against the Libertarians and the Green Party for "throwing the election" is amusing to behold. Unless they have solid proof that the votes would have gone to HRC, the attempt to put the blame anywhere else but on HRC's failings is totally unfounded.


There are so many other reasons to hate them!

Dems have a very, very, very short bench for next time.

I'll put a bet in now- $10 on Kamala Harris.
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Re: #MakeAmericaGreatAgain

Postby Admiral Piett » Thu 10 Nov 2016 01:56

Elizabeth Warren? Probably too old by 2020 though. They will have to bring up fresh blood, which isn't a bad thing.

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Postby Shrike » Thu 10 Nov 2016 01:59

Admiral Piett wrote:Yeah, exactly. Millions fewer Democratic voters turned up in 2016 compared to 2012. If someone wanted to vote Libertarian, then that was their right. At least they voted, and didn't sit at home and bitch about how other people voted on Reddit without any sense of irony.

Even I was attacked for being a supporter of 3rd party candidates. It's not my fault that I don't like or support the person you wanted to win, its not my fault I chose someone else that I wanted, it's not my fault that I didn't chose the person that you wanted to win. That's your problem I say.

Worst of all we got yet another Brexit scenario where people wont accept the outcome and they want a do over. Democracy has spoken, wait 4 years and come back with someone worth voting for instead of someone so blanatly corrupt. They can also start by booting out the regressives.

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