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Re: #MakeAmericaGreatAgain

Postby frostypooky » Thu 18 May 2017 04:13

facts: department of justice named a special counsel to investigate the two matters of A) Russian involvement (cyber actions, info warfare) in the US 2016 election and B) involvement of Trump/associates of illicit collusion with Russian govt/intel agencies. the special counsel has the ability to subpoena anything they want and otherwise carry out an investigation free of impediment.

opinions/read-between-the-lines: there are one of two reasons this would happen: little faith for the existing investigation methods (Congress committees + FBI investigation) to follow through objectively without impediment, or something serious was unearthed in the FBI investigation that gave the internal greenlight for DOJ to upgrade to special counsel. the guy named as special counsel is also a pretty standup former FBI director who everyone expects will execute this objectively and fully.

result: whether anything happens to Trump is entirely dependent on how far he goes to bat to protect anyone associated with colluding with Russians, or whether anything fucky is found with the FINCEN's investigation of his overseas finances. chances are he's already hosed because of how he handled Flynn alone (which is another small essay by itself) if just one of these snowballing anon claim is proven with documentation (hell, there was another revelation about Flynn in the last ten minutes, that he allegedly told Trump himself that he was under FBI investigation before he started working for Trump).

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Re: #MakeAmericaGreatAgain

Postby frostypooky » Thu 18 May 2017 06:03

jesus the news moves so fast with this week:

fox confirms the Comey memo:

https://twitter.com/meghankwelsh/status ... 2574279681


.@FoxNews now independently confirms existence of the Comey memo in which Trump asked him to end the Flynn investigation.


-Meghan K. Welsh
Fox News Channel Producer

and the comedy:

https://twitter.com/20committee/status/ ... 5885683712

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Re: #MakeAmericaGreatAgain

Postby Fade2Gray » Thu 18 May 2017 07:49

Oh man, the Trump team is already twitching...

Kellyanne Conway cancels Fox appearance after special prosecutor announcement
http://thehill.com/homenews/media/33398 ... nouncement

Edit:

http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2017 ... sot-ac.cnn

So one of Cruz's ex staffers is bitching about... Cruz? And the rest of the GOP I guess.
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Re: #MakeAmericaGreatAgain

Postby FrangibleCover » Thu 18 May 2017 09:51

So, under the increasingly good assumption that Trump is screwed, what's next? I realise that power would normally pass to the VP but he got elected on the same dirty ticket so surely he's compromised too. Do the Republicans pick someone else amongst themselves? Is there a snap election? Both?
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Re: #MakeAmericaGreatAgain

Postby frostypooky » Thu 18 May 2017 13:52

Food for thought: if Flynn told Trump/team he was under investigation before he started as National Security Adviser, that means either Trump lied to Pence going back several months and Pence was left in the dark, or Pence knew and was lying to nation about his contacts as well. This is emphasized by news this morning there were allegedly 18 more contacts with Russia before the Flynn Dec calls.


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Flynn in his short stint allegedly stopped SDF from getting greenlight to take on Raqqa, at Turkey's insistence (Syrian Kurds driving ISIS out of Syria would have legitimized them too much). Doesnt look good with the fact he received $500k for his consulting for Turkish gov. By far not the first case of pay to play in any WH admin, but I want to say this a novel application in affecting actual military matters...

hot take from the President:

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/sta ... 6854204416

This is the single greatest witch hunt of a politician in American history!


rich coming from the Benghazi-Emails-Birther camp

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Re: #MakeAmericaGreatAgain

Postby Admiral Piett » Thu 18 May 2017 17:36

frostypooky wrote:hot take from the President:

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/sta ... 6854204416

This is the single greatest witch hunt of a politician in American history!


rich coming from the Benghazi-Emails-Birther camp


I really wish he would stop talking about history, or just stop talking generally.

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Re: #MakeAmericaGreatAgain

Postby frostypooky » Thu 18 May 2017 17:53

Flynn turned down Senate subpoena, he's allowed to do so, presumably to plead 5th and avoid self incrimination.

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Re: #MakeAmericaGreatAgain

Postby Admiral Piett » Thu 18 May 2017 18:25

Well, here we go. I'm hoping it is just a grandma that hit the wrong pedal, but I somehow doubt that.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39968710

Edit: Police are saying it was an accident, not terror related.
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Re: #MakeAmericaGreatAgain

Postby Killertomato » Thu 18 May 2017 18:29

FrangibleCover wrote:So, under the increasingly good assumption that Trump is screwed, what's next? I realise that power would normally pass to the VP but he got elected on the same dirty ticket so surely he's compromised too. Do the Republicans pick someone else amongst themselves? Is there a snap election? Both?


If both get the boot, we get President Paul Ryan.
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Re: #MakeAmericaGreatAgain

Postby frostypooky » Thu 18 May 2017 18:36

Louise Mensch says her sources say Ryan is also implicated in knowledge of Ru money laundering, so it will be Pres Hatch. But she's insane, basically the Hannity of the left (well, more accurately, anti-Trumpists, she's a brit conservative and part of the Never Trump conservative crowd), and only a few of her claims have stuck this far (existence of FISA warrant against Flynn, and grand juries being formed)

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