There's still liberal butthurt over Trump feeding those damn fish. I don't even.
Shit like this has me convinced we can only keep going downhill from here.
Fade2Gray wrote:How much of a force multiplier? That doesn't even come close to answering my question, seriously that's so vague as to be a non-answer.
You had, what ~150 million views on some of this stuff?
Sources please. How much of this "stuff" was American made? Russian made? Greek made? From somewhere else? This is what I really want, raw data on where all of this stuff came from. Even if you "fix" the Russian problem, there's still plenty of sources from outside Russia that are peddling this alt-right wing nonsense.
That's all different, because those are all top-down media. You have one dude in a studio, or an editorial committee, setting the agenda. It's obvious that it's from those people because you hear Rush's voice on the radio, or you see the names of the editors right on the back page, or just because of what they are. Facebook and twitter are allegedly made up of random folks, some of whom you know, giving unfiltered opinions in an informal space. People, especially people who don't actively seek out information, are much more likely to believe stuff from some person just like them than a celebrity.
You are ignoring how these chain emails, Myspace shenanigans, etc are far from being "one dude in a studio."
The Russians didn't invent any of the controversies, they just pumped up the jam and made them believable through sheer volume.
I'm aware of that, but how much were they responsible for pumping up the volume? The sheer amount of fake news was and still is coming from a load of different sources. This is also why I think we need to focus more on home grown propaganda rather than Russian influence. As you said, they are not exactly original, the stuff from Russia, Eastern Europe, Asia, etc is just stealing ideas from the right wing here and running with it. Personally I think attacking the source could be more productive.
Of course, with how polarized politics are... who knows how much success we could have in that.
I'm convinced that if CTR had access to similar resources they would've had a similar impact, but they didn't.
CTR was pretty focused, and that was on Bernie supporters. Plenty Bernie "Bros" were regularly harassed and quickly whenever we voiced our opinions on preferring him over HRC. The responses were pretty copypasta, ie "sexist sexist sexist!"
Russia itself is much easier to deal with than 50+ million American citizens who would rather believe random people on the internet than anything else.
Oh do tell...
Killertomato wrote:As catastrophic a day for the GOP as it could've been.
No it wasn't. Not until the GOP loses both the House and the Senate is it going to get "catastrophic."