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Re: More DLC after Fins and Yugo?

Posted: Mon 3 Oct 2016 17:24
by Mighty_Zuk
Eukie wrote:
Mighty_Zuk wrote:Other than the F-14 and F-5, what units does Iran offer that aren't designed for parades?


They have a lot of other US equipment, including M47s, M60's, M110, M107, M109A1, TOW and Dragon,, and some British things like Chieftains and Scorpions, as well as EE-9s and MILAN missiles captured from Iraq.

Okay so anyone who wants an Iran deck can just take an 1980' US deck.
I can't imagine anyone having fun with a deck that is literally just the cheap 10-30pts stuff that Eugen always throws to every deck for the "variety".


I can't imagine it'd be hard to code, but the question might rather be whether it makes business sense to have a coalition that can only be played by people who've bought two DLCs.


Why not let each of them have a coalition with another country (e.g CCP) and let them have another coalition with each other?
Though I would rather see Yugo as standalone country.

Re: More DLC after Fins and Yugo?

Posted: Mon 3 Oct 2016 17:34
by Eukie
Mighty_Zuk wrote:Okay so anyone who wants an Iran deck can just take an 1980' US deck.
I can't imagine anyone having fun with a deck that is literally just the cheap 10-30pts stuff that Eugen always throws to every deck for the "variety".


I think that East Germany rather aptly demonstrates that even a nation comprising only USSR-made equipment can still be playable, interesting, and distinct. And, well, the Iranian deck would presumably be a diverse mix of US, British, Soviet, Chinese, and even Brazilian and French equipment, as well as Iran's domestic upgrades to these systems. You say it's basically a 1980's US deck, I say it'd be fun to drive Iranian infantry into combat in a mix of M113s and BMP-2s supported by upgraded Cheiftains under the cover of Chinese artillery, while a Brazillian scout vehicle spots for a MILAN team.

Also, a 1980's US deck won't be speaking Farsi.

Re: More DLC after Fins and Yugo?

Posted: Mon 3 Oct 2016 17:49
by hansbroger
If you think Cuba is clones.... Think again. BTR-60 IFVs with BMP-1 firepower, Wheeled T-55 turreted FSVs, ZSU-23-2 on wheels, ZSU-57-2 on wheels (second most OP gun AA in game after STROP II calling it), BRDM-2 based 120mm wheeled mortars and more artillery than you could possibly ever use.... Also Cuba v SADF was one of the longest cold war proxy grudge matches.

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https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source= ... A4d9lDlEPQ

Finally Cuba is certainly the most probable addition historically as it served as the USSR's hatchet man across the breadth of Africa with numerous large scale mechanized expeditionary deployments. Far from being a stretch like IDF+ Bluefor cooperation it's utterly conceivable that Cuba would supply an expeditionary force to whatever liberación project the USSR has going on in Asia in RD.

Re: More DLC after Fins and Yugo?

Posted: Mon 3 Oct 2016 17:53
by Fade2Gray
hansbroger wrote:If you think Cuba is clones.... Think again. BTR-60 IFVs with BMP-1 firepower, Wheeled T-55 turreted FSVs, ZSU-23-2 on wheels, ZSU-57-2 on wheels (second most OP gun AA in game after STROP II calling it), BRDM-2 based 120mm wheeled mortars and more artillery than you could possibly ever use.... Also Cuba v SADF was one of the longest cold war proxy grudge matches.

Image

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source= ... A4d9lDlEPQ

Finally Cuba is certainly the most probable addition historically as it served as the USSR's hatchet man across the breadth of Africa with numerous large scale mechanized expeditionary deployments. Far from being a stretch like IDF+ Bluefor cooperation it's utterly conceivable that Cuba would supply an expeditionary force to whatever liberación project the USSR has going on in Asia in RD.


Cuba having a bunch of fancy crap doesn't change the fact that it would be an army of crap.

Honestly I'm guessing that Cuba would be the one nation that you can pair up with the USSR without causing a SovKor mess.

Of course, the USSR has so much stuff that I'm wondering what Cuba could actually offer.

Re: More DLC after Fins and Yugo?

Posted: Mon 3 Oct 2016 18:04
by steppewolf
hansbroger wrote:If you think Cuba is clones.... Think again. BTR-60 IFVs with BMP-1 firepower,

Romania have this too on BTR-70

[/quote]Wheeled T-55 turreted FSVs, ZSU-23-2 on wheels[/quote]
TAA md. 85 for Romania, more modern gun than T-55 with higher ROF and autoloader, 30 mm Romanian AA can be on trucks or tracked and has a slightly more powerful ammo than normal 30 mm albeit not as strong as Praga; add to this BTR-70 with said 30 mm gun

hansbroger wrote:ZSU-57-2 on wheels (second most OP gun AA in game after STROP II calling it), BRDM-2 based 120mm wheeled mortars and more artillery than you could possibly ever use.... Also Cuba v SADF was one of the longest cold war proxy grudge matches.
hansbroger wrote:
Romania would be only REDFOR (considering actual setup) with both 82 mm and 120 mm mortars.

hansbroger wrote:Finally Cuba is certainly the most probable addition historically as it served as the USSR's hatchet man across the breadth of Africa with numerous large scale mechanized expeditionary deployments. Far from being a stretch like IDF+ Bluefor cooperation it's utterly conceivable that Cuba would supply an expeditionary force to whatever liberación project the USSR has going on in Asia in RD.


However, I do agree Cuba is somehow interesting but they have very little late 80s stuff, best tank is T-62M? Not even a BMP-2? Yes, amazing auto-cannons on wheels but it's the same as what is curently in game and was supplied by WP. Romania has programs who went well into 90s before being dropped after the armed forces were cut down dramatically , there is nothing similar in Cuba (helos, aircrafts, tanks, upgraded BMP-1 etc.).

Re: More DLC after Fins and Yugo?

Posted: Mon 3 Oct 2016 18:34
by Lord Helmchen
I'd really prefer another - relatively - big player during the cold war/early 90s which could allign to Redfor. IMO India would be such a candidate. Also it would fit the Asian theatre - at least better than Yugoslavia, Finnland or the Netherlands. :D

Re: More DLC after Fins and Yugo?

Posted: Mon 3 Oct 2016 18:51
by DeckCheney
HrcAk47 wrote:Best solution in my case - dual nation pack, Italy vs. Romania - call it "Pax Romana", on the account of neither bluforboos or redforboos can cry that its unjust. :D

Both nations have coalitions cut out for them - Romania+ Yugoslavia (YuRom treaty of friendship) and Italy+France (Medfor).


You mean; pair French Bias with a bunch of OP Italian Oto Merla hardware?

Somehow Yugoslavian Junk and Romania Knockoffs are supposed to compete with this?

Do you have any idea how absolutely terrible Ronania's armed forces are? They're more embarrassing than the Czechs. Everything they have is obsolete export grade hardware. The Bulgarians are in a better position since they actually had functional equipment like NEWA's, T-72s and Hinds. The best tank Romania offers is an "upgraded" T-55 that is by all accounts still inferior to the Russian T-55 upgrades.

Yugoslavia might not be 100% junk, but it'll hardly have the wealth of superweapons/modern hardware that Blue for majors like France, UK, and Germany boast.

Re: More DLC after Fins and Yugo?

Posted: Mon 3 Oct 2016 18:56
by another505
Rom+ Bug

then Yug has its coalition

Re: More DLC after Fins and Yugo?

Posted: Mon 3 Oct 2016 19:34
by FUBAR1939
I would vote for Iran DLC .

And we don't need more BLUFOR nations.

Or we could get Wargame 4.

Re: More DLC after Fins and Yugo?

Posted: Mon 3 Oct 2016 20:24
by steppewolf
DeckCheney wrote:
HrcAk47 wrote:
Do you have any idea how absolutely terrible Ronania's armed forces are? They're more embarrassing than the Czechs. Everything they have is obsolete export grade hardware. The Bulgarians are in a better position since they actually had functional equipment like NEWA's, T-72s and Hinds. The best tank Romania offers is an "upgraded" T-55 that is by all accounts still inferior to the Russian T-55 upgrades.


You should upgrade your knowledge, Romania had too Newa, T-72s, MIG-29 and helos. TR-85 is a far better tank than T-55