More DLC after Fins and Yugo?

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Re: More DLC after Fins and Yugo?

Postby chykka » Mon 3 Oct 2016 23:50

I like the Idea of India in RD chances of Pakistan? Iran is kind of fitting now as well, F14 on Red would be cool.
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Re: More DLC after Fins and Yugo?

Postby Fade2Gray » Tue 4 Oct 2016 00:03

Lord Helmchen wrote:
Narcissistic Black wrote:There is only 1 rightful choice after Yugoslavia and Finland.


Spoiler : :
Surprise.. its INDIA as a Redfor nation.
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He's not, it'll be Iran.
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Re: More DLC after Fins and Yugo?

Postby Narcissistic Black » Tue 4 Oct 2016 00:29

chykka wrote:I like the Idea of India in RD chances of Pakistan? Iran is kind of fitting now as well, F14 on Red would be cool.


We don't need more LRAAM planes.
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Re: More DLC after Fins and Yugo?

Postby Broth3r » Tue 4 Oct 2016 00:41

DeckCheney wrote:
HrcAk47 wrote:Best solution in my case - dual nation pack, Italy vs. Romania - call it "Pax Romana", on the account of neither bluforboos or redforboos can cry that its unjust. :D

Both nations have coalitions cut out for them - Romania+ Yugoslavia (YuRom treaty of friendship) and Italy+France (Medfor).


You mean; pair French Bias with a bunch of OP Italian Oto Merla hardware?

Somehow Yugoslavian Junk and Romania Knockoffs are supposed to compete with this?

Do you have any idea how absolutely terrible Ronania's armed forces are? They're more embarrassing than the Czechs. Everything they have is obsolete export grade hardware. The Bulgarians are in a better position since they actually had functional equipment like NEWA's, T-72s and Hinds. The best tank Romania offers is an "upgraded" T-55 that is by all accounts still inferior to the Russian T-55 upgrades.

Yugoslavia might not be 100% junk, but it'll hardly have the wealth of superweapons/modern hardware that Blue for majors like France, UK, and Germany boast.

Um...

I don't mean to alarm you, but you might have problems.

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Re: More DLC after Fins and Yugo?

Postby chykka » Tue 4 Oct 2016 00:45

Yeah Bulgaria too have great helicopter. Lets not underestimate the Czech military :)
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Re: More DLC after Fins and Yugo?

Postby Rabidpalidinski » Tue 4 Oct 2016 00:53

ElTaco wrote:I know this may very well end with a "no" however I think Wargame would benefit greatly by adding some of the runner ups to the original poll, basically I feel like Wargame has a lot to gain from adding Italy, Iran, Vietnam, and India. The addition of Italy is another unique country in Wargame that has a lot of domestically produced equipment and the Redfor countries of Iran, Vietnam, and India would be great to round out the numbers of Redfor and Blufor nations, India could very well be like a Redfor Israel equivalent as they not only feature many imports but also use lots of domestic equipment as well which would create a good power house to Redfor to match the Blufor power houses. Vietnam can serve as a great addition to the Red Dragons coalition, while the CCP and Vietnam have a bit of a checkered history they could work as a balancing factor in the game to bring Red Dragons back to being competitive(possibly). I am aware that Eugen very well may be looking to just be done after the Fins and Yugos are added (or maybe just looking to go on hiatus for a bit) but this is more of something that I figured would be worth the discussion.

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Basically just interested in seeing some runner ups added.

Original poll.
http://www.eugensystems.com/the-votes-a ... n-pack-is/

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Why stop there? The main selling point about this game is the massive amount of available units, the crazy scale and the fact that 99% of the time, not two decks will be exactly the same. I feel that in theory, you can keep adding nations like Belgium, Romania, South Africa, Cuba, Libya the Swiss, ect. At the end of the day what is there to really loose other then more content= potentially more bugs but due to the nature of producing things in small batches and Eugens more open policy about letting us see new content as it develops to correct many issues before the DLC is even out, In theory this symbiotic relationship of Eugen and the community when it comes to development of content, fixing bugs, errors, inconsistency and game play balancing and us providing them with dedicated monetary support what do we really have to loose at the end of the day?
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Re: More DLC after Fins and Yugo?

Postby Sgt._Pepper » Tue 4 Oct 2016 02:44

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Re: More DLC after Fins and Yugo?

Postby FireScorpion » Tue 4 Oct 2016 06:08

I think Iran is a very good choice because it would be the only redfor Middle East nation that can be played againts Israel. India and Israel fighting would make less sence then Iran vs israel. And out military isn't just other people equipment, we have produced our own tanks and weapons like the Zulqifar tank and the toofan missiles. We also have upgrades for all our foreign equipment. And most people think we would just be a copy and paste soviet puppet but we have more western tech then soviet tech by that time. And our troops did actually fight at that time againts Iraq who was actually backed by everyone including US and USSR. Iraq launched a surprise attack but we drove them right back to their country. The only reason why we failed to gain much land in Iraq was because of the extensive amount of foreign help. I mean we already have Eastern European nations and we are getting two more.

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Re: More DLC after Fins and Yugo?

Postby Mighty_Zuk » Tue 4 Oct 2016 07:27

Narcissistic Black wrote:
Mighty_Zuk wrote:I agree with ardi223. We should vote for India if there will be plans for another DLC before WG4.


I wanted India, he said he wanted Iran



Just wanted to piss him off

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Re: More DLC after Fins and Yugo?

Postby Mighty_Zuk » Tue 4 Oct 2016 07:52

FireScorpion wrote:I think Iran is a very good choice because it would be the only redfor Middle East nation that can be played againts Israel. India and Israel fighting would make less sence then Iran vs israel. And out military isn't just other people equipment, we have produced our own tanks and weapons like the Zulqifar tank and the toofan missiles. We also have upgrades for all our foreign equipment. And most people think we would just be a copy and paste soviet puppet but we have more western tech then soviet tech by that time. And our troops did actually fight at that time againts Iraq who was actually backed by everyone including US and USSR. Iraq launched a surprise attack but we drove them right back to their country. The only reason why we failed to gain much land in Iraq was because of the extensive amount of foreign help. I mean we already have Eastern European nations and we are getting two more.


You do know it's BLUFOR against REDFOR, right?
Israel and said red nation (Iran or India) would not be the only choices for each other in match making.
Playing either, you will be able to fight any country or coalition the enemy faction has.

The difference between Iran and India or Pakistan, is that Iran doesn't have a decently functioning defense industry.
Nearly every weapon it makes is either a copy (reverse engineering) to compensate for the arms import ban, or just a propaganda piece.
Things like BAVAR-373, Qaher F-373, RQ-170, Hermes 450, MQ-9 Reaper, Al-Karrar, are parade pieces.

What is actually functioning is either heavily based, or outright copy, of an existing decades old kit.
For example you mentioned the Toofan. It is a copy of the TOW missile. Not a very successful one though.
The Zulfiqar was basically a T-72 and M60 hybrid of salvaged components, while the most advanced Zulfiqar 3 was just an attempt to mimic the american Abrams tank. So I guess only the Zulfiqar 1 was somewhat functional, but still a tank for the 40-50pts range.

So what weapons can Iran field to fill the standard roles in every deck?
It doesn't have a superheavy tank.
Doesn't even have decent "medium" tanks for the 65-90 price range.
Old infantry AT weapons. Perhaps decent firearms though (AK, AKM, PKM).
low-end ATGMs.
less-than-decent air tab.
only okay-ish IFVs.
Good rocket artillery though it's pretty standard for REDFOR countries.

Meanwhile India has a lot of things it can add to the game. Same with Pakistan, and each can form a formidable coalition.

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