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Postby Frencho » Thu 4 Jan 2018 05:24

Shrike wrote:That whole Israel thing is a mess. The Gaza strip should just go to Egypt and the part of the west bank over to Jordan.

Thing is Egypt does not want Gaza at all. if what Lakhdar Brahimi told me in class is true, and I quote, Egyptian officials told him "Gaza looks like shit, we don't want anything to do with it".

Egypt can barely hold on onto the Sinai with Israeli intel support, now you throw them Gaza, a shithole bringing nothing but more unrest. Plus the Egyptian military regime is big buddies with Israel since decades now.

The context has changed so much, Kelkin nailed it with his post:

Google translated:
Israel was the dreamed "Foreign Enemy" for the Arab world, it acted as an escape valve for the arab people, too make the catharsis of its frustrations by spitting its hatred on the authorized enemy.
But things have changed. Israel became the protégé-in-chief of Uncle Sam, who was also the protector of all these good Sheikhs and Emirs. As a result, it took a long time, but finally they got closer. Then we must also see that the last war between Arab countries and Israel was the Six Day War in 1967. 50 years already! (meh He forgot about the Yorn Kippur war it seems :P) Since then, Gamal Abdel Nasser died (1970), Hussein bin Talal of Jordan died (1999), Abdul Rahman Aref died (2007), and Noureddine al-Atassi died (1992). They are all dead, the leaders of the countries that declared war on Israel. Now, instead, we have:
In Egypt: Abdel Fattah el-Sissi, born in 1954.
In Syria: Bashar al-Assad, born in 1965
In Jordan: Abdullah II, born in 1962
In Iraq: Haider el-Abadi, born in 1952
All have in common to be born after the creation of Israel, to have grown up with the existence of Israel as an indisputable fact even if regrettable. The broken dream of pan-Arabism does not concern them directly; By the time they became adults, the idea was dead and buried.

But there were other things. A much more recent trauma than the Nakba. There was the taking and sieging of the Great Mosque in 1979; as well as, the same year, the Iranian revolution. And these things, they lived them. The result is that Saudi Arabia began to proselytize internationally its hyper conservative Sunni cults, Wahhabism or Salafism. This was both to try to reassure the ultra-fundamentalists who had attacked the mosque, and to try to prevent the Islamic Republic of Iran from gaining influence in the Muslim world in general, and in Arab countries in particular. So the hatred of the Jews has begun to be replaced by Shiite hatred, a slow-moving movement that has slowly, steadily gained in strength and whose progress has been seen to accelerate in recent years.

The last piece of the puzzle is the failure of the Arab Spring. Apart from Tunisia, a particular country where this movement was born, and Libya where the West intervened with the result that we know, all countries where the angry crowds demanded that the dictator in power leave the fuck off, have managed to return to the status quo ante. In Egypt it was a counter-revolution that put the military back into power. In Syria it was a civil war that forced half of the population to flee. In Jordan, the population has been cajoled with some promises of reform. And elsewhere, a crackdown associated with media control has helped prevent unrest from growing. The lessons from the failure of the Arab Spring is that the powerbase of the dictators is solid, that they can confront their own people and triumph. And so, the alliance with the Enemy, which had existed de facto for a long time, but could not be avowed de jure lest the people rise up, is no longer an obstacle.

And so, now everything is in place to replace the External Enemy of Israel with the External Enemy of Iran. And that's good, because suddenly, everyone can merrily join: the Arab monarchies, Israel, and the US, all together, hands-in-the-hand, united in their brotherly desire to kill Persians. The people will learn to forget that they were supposed to hate the Jews, because it is the Safavid heretics who have always been the Enemy, always, without discontinuity, without interruption, since the original muslim schism. Read Big Brother but replace "Estasia" with "Iran" and "Eurasia" with "Israel"; or the opposite because it's the same thing.

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Re: World news thread

Postby chykka » Thu 4 Jan 2018 09:46

Grabbed_by_the_Spets wrote:The British partition of the Middle East was one of the biggest mistakes of the 20th century.

And now they have no undo button. Pretty sure some other negotiators but non from middle east.

Also for any of you guys running an Intel CPU developed in last decade should take a look at this.
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/01/02/intel_cpu_design_flaw/

Also to be noted is intel's ME has been around a while, I am not sure but the Core 2 duo and Quad may have a way to disable it. They are quite cheap now but the price may go up. I have a mobile one on non-Ufie bios you can access the MINIX and disable it's network, set a password (Default is admin), and disable ME altogether in it's settings. Although it's running at the lowest runlevel and boots before bios anyway so who knows if it's fully disabled as it's still there.
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Postby Fade2Gray » Tue 9 Jan 2018 17:01


At first I really didn't care too much other than being a bit curious about PMCs (or I guess possiblly SOF) from Russia, but then...
Note: Blokhin consciously chooses to wear a patch with the US Civil War Confederate flag, saying that he would welcome "a territory in the US with a state flag like that" because it "would be a country of normal people with normal values".

lovely. Nice to see that Russia is appealing hard to a certain crowd.
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Postby Gronank » Tue 9 Jan 2018 21:39

Fade2Gray wrote:
Note: Blokhin consciously chooses to wear a patch with the US Civil War Confederate flag, saying that he would welcome "a territory in the US with a state flag like that" because it "would be a country of normal people with normal values".

lovely. Nice to see that Russia is appealing hard to a certain crowd.

Maybe it's the most subtle diss of Mississippi yet?
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Postby Fade2Gray » Sat 13 Jan 2018 05:29


That's a whole lot of The Matrix rejects right there.
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Re: World news thread

Postby Doinize » Sat 13 Jan 2018 17:53

Fade2Gray wrote:

That's a whole lot of The Matrix rejects right there.


My first thought was Laibach.
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