Help me use Pact Tanks better

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Re: Help me use Pact Tanks better

Postby Lonfield » Tue 16 Apr 2013 15:55

Torrisco wrote:I use T72 or T72A when i don't want ATGMs on my tanks, T72B when i want a better tank with very good ATGM without need to go for T80U(rarely use them)

T-72 by 40pts has better armor and better AP than any nato tank of the same price range, with vet 1 you get by just 10pts more some advantages that balance the tank. it has not the T64A ROF but still manage 4HE able to kill infantry and much better at holding enemy fire. Chieftain MK2 by same price has better accuracy but lot worse speed, T72's accuracy can be fixed with vets, chieftain's speed can't.

T-72A by 60pts, vet 1 (75pts)= T64B - 4 mediocre ATGMs -4ROF + much better side and rear armor + better stab + better optics + better operational range + better morale +50% main gun ammo + Better HMG. if you get vets during the battle T72A is a tank able to face other heavier tanks, I.E. T72A if vet2 could face in 1vs1 a M1 abrams and have serious chances of win.

T-72B by 120pts, is good enough, get's the T80 main gun(rof included) + a very good ATGM, better than T80A IMO.


Torrisco i must tell you that T-72B is one of the worst atgm tanks ever seen IMHO, it never worth its price... we are talking about a 120 points tank with a 7 frontal armour... never use them, T-72 series is not bad but today i've removed them from my deck and BMP 645 came to the deck again. I need accurated weapons... a big armour only means that you'll survive more before diying, cause a tank with that acc if it's stunned must be awful causing damage.
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Re: Help me use Pact Tanks better

Postby omega21 » Tue 16 Apr 2013 16:13

Yep, BMP 685 have come into my deck for cheap, accurate standoff gunfire support to help say assaulting infantry.
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Re: Help me use Pact Tanks better

Postby Max_Damage » Tue 16 Apr 2013 22:31

T72B should have armor 9.

t72 cost 35, kpz t72 30 cost.

The t72A cost 50, Kpzt72M 45.

It will be a better slot then.
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Re: Help me use Pact Tanks better

Postby mmpaco » Tue 16 Apr 2013 23:30

All I can say is I'm glad you don't balance the game.

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Re: Help me use Pact Tanks better

Postby enohka » Tue 16 Apr 2013 23:31

Max_Damage wrote:T72B should have armor 9.

t72 cost 35, kpz t72 30 cost.

The t72A cost 50, Kpzt72M 45.

It will be a better slot then.


hmmm, like the best available slot in the whole game?

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Re: Help me use Pact Tanks better

Postby DarrickS » Wed 17 Apr 2013 02:00

Max_Damage wrote:T72B should have armor 9.

t72 cost 35, kpz t72 30 cost.

The t72A cost 50, Kpzt72M 45.

It will be a better slot then.


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Re: Help me use Pact Tanks better

Postby Breadbox » Wed 17 Apr 2013 08:42

Max_Damage wrote:T72B should have armor 9.

t72 cost 35, kpz t72 30 cost.

The t72A cost 50, Kpzt72M 45.

It will be a better slot then.

Nothing too outrages really.Just some tuning I don"t see why is everyone so worked up.
However,you will be surprised by what a -5pt can have on the over all impression of the tanks(vet system).

More rate of Fire or Stabiliser on T72/ would be better.
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Re: Help me use Pact Tanks better

Postby DiabloTigerSix » Wed 17 Apr 2013 08:47

Max_Damage wrote:T72B should have armor 9.

t72 cost 35, kpz t72 30 cost.

The t72A cost 50, Kpzt72M 45.

It will be a better slot then.

3-vet T-72G
- same price as the M60A3 Patton
- same accuracy when standstill; more accurate on the move than the M60A3
- slightly better armour
- slightly less range&rof than the M60A3
- KPz T72G availability: 24; M60A3 availability: 8
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Breadbox wrote:Nothing too outrages really.Just some tuning I don"t see why is everyone so worked up.
However,you will be surprised by what a -5pt can have on the over all impression of the tanks.

More rate of Fire or Stabiliser on T72/ would be better.

That would make it clearly superior to certain Leo 1 variants. The T-72 is fine as it is, it's the T-64A that's too cheap. The T-64A is just as good, if not better than the M60A3 Patton.

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Re: Help me use Pact Tanks better

Postby Breadbox » Wed 17 Apr 2013 09:17

DiabloTigerSix wrote:
Max_Damage wrote:T72B should have armor 9.

t72 cost 35, kpz t72 30 cost.

The t72A cost 50, Kpzt72M 45.

It will be a better slot then.

Breadbox wrote:Nothing too outrages really.Just some tuning I don"t see why is everyone so worked up.
However,you will be surprised by what a -5pt can have on the over all impression of the tanks.

More rate of Fire or Stabiliser on T72/ would be better.

That would make it clearly superior to certain Leo 1 variants. The T-72 is fine as it is, it's the T-64A that's too cheap. The T-64A is just as good, if not better than the M60A3 Patton.

No,T64A isn"t too cheap,it is just a cost efficient tank.
You said that T64A is too cheap in COMPARISION with M60A3.

They are infact fairly equal
Firepower:
M60:8 7 3 7 normal stab T64:6 7 4 10 no stab
They are fairly equal

Armour:M60 5 3 1 1 T64:5 2 1 1
M60 slight advantage

Price: 60 vs 55
T64A slight advantage,5p diff has a big impact on cheap units but not 50+p tanks

Invalid comparision:Availability,the two tree have different focus

The rest are rather insignificant,I would say that T64A is slightly more used as Nato uses slightly more light unit and less Atgm.

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Re: Help me use Pact Tanks better

Postby DarrickS » Wed 17 Apr 2013 10:36

T72 has a rof of 6.
T64a has a rof of 10.

That make a very, very, big difference.
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