[RD] Unit of the Day

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Re: [RD] Unit of the Day

Postby Mikeboy » Fri 10 Jan 2014 15:57

[EUG]MadMat wrote:
shuai-jan wrote:There will be no "NATO mixed" in RD. (I think MadMat said that, but I'm not as sure as the last time I claimed that).

There will be. I never said the contrary.


That's unfortunate.

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Re: [RD] Unit of the Day

Postby Breadbox » Fri 10 Jan 2014 15:59

Specialised decks are silly and should not be taken seriously(for now).

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Re: [RD] Unit of the Day

Postby ch3cooh » Fri 10 Jan 2014 16:02

[EUG]MadMat wrote:
shuai-jan wrote:There will be no "NATO mixed" in RD. (I think MadMat said that, but I'm not as sure as the last time I claimed that).

There will be. I never said the contrary.


Nice, making coalitions an additional choice.
Will coalitions have access to all of the prototypes?

I guess it could be like that:
Mixed - no prototypes
Coalition - prototypes, normal activation points
National - prototypes, more activation points

Or will there be 2 kinds of prototypes? (coalition/national)

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Re: [RD] Unit of the Day

Postby Brutoni » Fri 10 Jan 2014 16:04

Breadbox wrote:Specialised decks are silly and should not be taken seriously(for now).


Your right. Alliances share one budget and operates as a whole all the time. Militaries aren't divided into respective specialise regiments and forces designed to do certain jobs as laid out by a countries strategic defence policy.
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Re: [RD] Unit of the Day

Postby Medan » Fri 10 Jan 2014 16:04

CantRushThis wrote:Any reason as to why? Coalitions are far better suited to patch up individual shortcomings and should mean we would no longer have to revolve our balancing around Nato Mixed vs. Soviet Union.

I can't agree more. NATO/PACT Mixed decks ruined a lot of the flavor of each nation... you just hand pick units for optimal min/maxing and call it a day. Coalitions seems like a brilliant idea to cover some of the shortcomings of individual nations while retaining the character/flavor. Moreover it's a great opportunity to balance multiple minors to compete against stronger individual nations in competitive play.
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Re: [RD] Unit of the Day

Postby Grabbed_by_the_Spets » Fri 10 Jan 2014 16:05

Hopefully there will be options to add filters in games in RD.


Eg. No mixed, no cat C/B, Coalitions only, ect...
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Re: [RD] Unit of the Day

Postby [EUG]MadMat » Fri 10 Jan 2014 16:07

CantRushThis wrote:Any reason as to why?

So, where's the "give us more freedom" speech?

There are people out there having more fun trying to recreate non-incuded armies (Spain, Belgium, Singapore, Holland, Vietnam, ...) with mixed decks, so there is no reason to remove this opportunity from them ...

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Re: [RD] Unit of the Day

Postby Mikeboy » Fri 10 Jan 2014 16:10

[EUG]MadMat wrote:
CantRushThis wrote:Any reason as to why?

So, where's the "give us more freedom" speech?

There are people out there having more fun trying to recreate non-incuded armies (Spain, Belgium, Singapore, Holland, Vietnam, ...) with mixed decks, so there is no reason to remove this opportunity from them ...


That would be fair enough if it didn't include the balancing problems.

Can we at least have the lobby option to exclude them?

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Re: [RD] Unit of the Day

Postby ch3cooh » Fri 10 Jan 2014 16:10

Grabbed_by_the_Spets wrote:Hopefully there will be options to add filters in games in RD.


Eg. No mixed, no cat C/B, Coalitions only, ect...


No.
You have to be prepared for any kind of opponents, that is an important tactical factor. I don't want servers where people can pick the decks for their enemies.

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Re: [RD] Unit of the Day

Postby Korochun » Fri 10 Jan 2014 16:15

[EUG]MadMat wrote:
CantRushThis wrote:Any reason as to why?

So, where's the "give us more freedom" speech?

There are people out there having more fun trying to recreate non-incuded armies (Spain, Belgium, Singapore, Holland, Vietnam, ...) with mixed decks, so there is no reason to remove this opportunity from them ...


While this is a legitimate point, I think so many people want to see these gone because they open a door to serious min-maxing and tend to altogether invalidate national decks at a competitive level.

This is not exactly true for PACT mixed (though this is debatable in terms of minor nations), it is entirely true for NATO, where the only nation currently on par with a NATO mixed deck is US, because they have many prototypes that are competitive with what NATO mixed offers.

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