Soviet / Russian army in Red Dragon

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Re: Soviet / Russian army in Red Dragon

Postby Flieger » Sun 13 Oct 2013 13:43

Alex18762 wrote:why cant the USSR still get the best MBT?


Because then the NATO fans will demand their super tank prototypes, think of 140mm Abrams/Leo 2 - and they would demand rightly so, since the main reason these tanks were never introduced is the failure of the USSR and the absence of its tank hordes.

Do you really want a game in which Object 187 battles Abrams CATTB regularily? :?
I don't.

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Re: Soviet / Russian army in Red Dragon

Postby jonas165 » Sun 13 Oct 2013 13:47

I think the Su-33 can fire anti ship missiles, but I'm not sure.



Wikipedia says so. That would be pretty much the only option to make it an unique plane, if Soviet airforce stays like it is in ALB
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Postby anto-shturmovik » Sun 13 Oct 2013 14:05

jonas165 wrote:
I think the Su-33 can fire anti ship missiles, but I'm not sure.



Wikipedia says so. That would be pretty much the only option to make it an unique plane, if Soviet airforce stays like it is in ALB



We don't know yet how naval combat is going to be handled. I think that dedicated AS missiles won't be included, because they're only useful against large craft (at least destroyers or frigates)... For PT boats, anti-tank missiles (AGM-65) and bombs would be largely sufficient.
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Re: Soviet / Russian army in Red Dragon

Postby orcbuster » Sun 13 Oct 2013 14:12

zebtucker wrote:No opinions on the GAZ_Vodnik?


2000s vehicle
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Re: Soviet / Russian army in Red Dragon

Postby zebtucker » Sun 13 Oct 2013 14:38

orcbuster wrote:
zebtucker wrote:No opinions on the GAZ_Vodnik?


2000s vehicle

I read that the started working on it 1985 tho.

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Re: Soviet / Russian army in Red Dragon

Postby orcbuster » Sun 13 Oct 2013 14:40

zebtucker wrote:
orcbuster wrote:
zebtucker wrote:No opinions on the GAZ_Vodnik?


2000s vehicle

I read that the started working on it 1985 tho.


no that was the NAMI-0281. The Vodnik is a derivative of a vehicle that was first displayed in 2001
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Re: Soviet / Russian army in Red Dragon

Postby Killertomato » Sun 13 Oct 2013 15:34

Flieger wrote:
Do you really want a game in which Object 187 battles Abrams CATTB regularily? :?
I don't.


Object 187 is not the CATTB's equal- there were other tanks for that. :P

If it ended up in-game, it might be a lot like the T-80U is in ALB but certainly no better. The gun was just a longer 2A46 derivative and the turret ended up on the T-90A; an effective tank, to be sure, but the T-80UM2 would almost certainly be superior if that made it in.
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Re: Soviet / Russian army in Red Dragon

Postby Flieger » Sun 13 Oct 2013 15:37

The point is that I don't want to see prototypes of freaky tanks that did not make it into serial production becoming the best assets of anyone's tank forces.

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Re: Soviet / Russian army in Red Dragon

Postby Killertomato » Sun 13 Oct 2013 15:39

Flieger wrote:The point is that I don't want to see prototypes of freaky tanks that did not make it into serial production becoming the best assets of anyone's tank forces.


Fair enough.
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Re: Soviet / Russian army in Red Dragon

Postby Graphic » Sun 13 Oct 2013 16:13

I agree with Flieger. Chimera was a special case (Canada being worst of the worst), but with coalitions in RD it shouldn't have to come to that.
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