Heavy armaments infantry

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Heavy armaments infantry

Postby T-80U » Mon 21 Oct 2013 10:14

In Soviet Union there were a lot of heavy weapons able to be carried by infantry. There were KPV, SPG-9 and AGS versions for infantry use. These are not really towed weapons - they could be modelled by STAT weapon trait. These units could really enchance the game, especially for red asians who were relying on such weapons quite a lot.
I'm sure NATO has same weapon systems, so they can get it too.
As i see it now, this is a great way to add really diffeent infantry, not just with another RPG or MG.
The good example are "light riflemen/schutzen/piechota" who appeared to be a brand new infantry with really new fuctions and role in the battlefield.

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Re: Heavy armaments infantry

Postby Raymond Saint » Mon 21 Oct 2013 10:19

Agree.

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Re: Heavy armaments infantry

Postby orcbuster » Mon 21 Oct 2013 10:23

Eugen don't want static inf teams. this is why we don't have TOW missiles, or inf mortars either.
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Re: Heavy armaments infantry

Postby T-80U » Mon 21 Oct 2013 10:24

orcbuster wrote:Eugen don't want static inf teams. this is why we don't have TOW missiles, or inf mortars either.

We have static MGs. What's the big difference with AGS? I agree, mortars are really another thing, but heavy MGs are no different from what we have now.

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Postby rattusxrattus » Mon 21 Oct 2013 10:28

orcbuster wrote:Eugen don't want static inf teams. this is why we don't have TOW missiles, or inf mortars either.

What? We have infantry ATGMs. Its static like HMG or Mortas.
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Re: Heavy armaments infantry

Postby Norim0101 » Mon 21 Oct 2013 10:43

+1 for static KPV and SPGs
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Re: Heavy armaments infantry

Postby REDDQ » Mon 21 Oct 2013 10:49

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Re: Heavy armaments infantry

Postby orcbuster » Mon 21 Oct 2013 10:56

Actually, HMGs are significantly heavier, bulkier and more impractical than ATGMs. Not to mention that the Ammo is a pure nightmare to carry around.

Take a standard MILAN for example. It weights 7 kg per shot. Now compare with a M2HB without ammo. That thing weighs an astounding 60kg with mount (and you're not firing it without it). The soviet KPV is even bigger.

The heaviest mobile MG in the game is the MG-3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcnGfVSDf7U

it weighs around 12 kg and it eats ammo like hell and all that ammo is heavier than the weapon itself. Having operated this weapon I can tell you that it is DAMN heavy, and not the most practical of MGs. It is however combat mobile, we're trained to use this thing in CQC. The reason it has the stat function is that you have to find a supportive position and deploy the bipod (takes about 3 seconds)

Now compare the M2HB Without a tripod.

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Re: Heavy armaments infantry

Postby Elukka » Mon 21 Oct 2013 11:16

And an RBS-70 system weighs 87 kg, per wiki. :P

I feel it could be interesting. It wouldn't really need any new mechanics and properly thought out it might add quite a bit to infantry combat.

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Re: Heavy armaments infantry

Postby Raymond Saint » Mon 21 Oct 2013 11:17

orcbuster wrote:Now compare the M2HB Without a tripod.

M2 without a tripod: 38 kg.
M2 with a tripod: 58 kg.

AGS-17 Plamya without a tripod: 18 kg.
AGS-17 Plamya with a tripod: 31 kg.

Feel the difference.
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