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Re: What MUST be in Wargame Red Dragon

Postby captain biggles » Tue 12 Nov 2013 09:24

Bryan wrote:
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Bryan wrote:TIGER ARH (Australia)

99% chance that it won't be in. Australia decided to buy Tigers only in 2001.

Along with the Hellfire...
There goes Australia last hope of anti tank weapons. :cry:
Might aswell surrender to the hordes of T-72< models of tanks.

No Tiger ARH+ Hellfire
No FGM-148
No M1A1AIM

Left only with a Milan.....


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Re: What MUST be in Wargame Red Dragon

Postby StalkerDellaNote » Tue 12 Nov 2013 13:06

Strategic bombers, like B-52, B-1, Tupolev Tu-160, Avro Vulcan, Tupolev Tu-16, Vickers Valiant, XIAN H-6, etc..
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Re: What MUST be in Wargame Red Dragon

Postby Mikeboy » Tue 12 Nov 2013 13:55

StalkerDellaNote wrote:Avro Vulcan, Vickers Valiant


Even if strategic bombers were in these 2 hadn't been used as them for ages by 1991.

And you missed out the HP Victor. :evil:

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Re: What MUST be in Wargame Red Dragon

Postby trotskygrad » Tue 12 Nov 2013 19:36

StalkerDellaNote wrote:Strategic bombers, like B-52, B-1, Tupolev Tu-160, Avro Vulcan, Tupolev Tu-16, Vickers Valiant, XIAN H-6, etc..


they are in ALB already... :lol: in the place where they should be. If they aren't where you think they should be, your opinion on where they should be is wrong ;)
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Re: What MUST be in Wargame Red Dragon

Postby Kraxis » Tue 12 Nov 2013 20:49

Bryan wrote:
Mobius wrote:Since the Australian army operated the Kiowa, I suppose there's the possibility that they might get the Kiowa Warrior.

Lol no.
Kiowa is in the LOH role, no offensive capabilities here.
Also its a OH-58A and B variant, no mast sight, no laser etc, at most a weapon pylon but Australia does not use weapons on that IRRC.

I'll mention it again. TOW Kiowa, a bit like the TOW Defender (also not fielded). It should be a possible option.
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Re: What MUST be in Wargame Red Dragon

Postby captain biggles » Tue 12 Nov 2013 21:20

Mikeboy wrote:
StalkerDellaNote wrote:Avro Vulcan, Vickers Valiant


Even if strategic bombers were in these 2 hadn't been used as them for ages by 1991.

And you missed out the HP Victor. :evil:


NEVER EVER MISS OUT THE VICTOR
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Re: What MUST be in Wargame Red Dragon

Postby StalkerDellaNote » Tue 12 Nov 2013 23:24

trotskygrad wrote:
StalkerDellaNote wrote:Strategic bombers, like B-52, B-1, Tupolev Tu-160, Avro Vulcan, Tupolev Tu-16, Vickers Valiant, XIAN H-6, etc..


they are in ALB already... :lol: in the place where they should be. If they aren't where you think they should be, your opinion on where they should be is wrong ;)


They are in ALB? You sure? I'm pretty sure the only bombers are Fighter Bombers.. and I'm sorry for missing the Victor, I didn't think..
On the subject of the two brit planes I did include, remember we should have Cat C's & what not
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Re: What MUST be in Wargame Red Dragon

Postby trotskygrad » Tue 12 Nov 2013 23:53

StalkerDellaNote wrote:
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StalkerDellaNote wrote:Strategic bombers, like B-52, B-1, Tupolev Tu-160, Avro Vulcan, Tupolev Tu-16, Vickers Valiant, XIAN H-6, etc..


they are in ALB already... :lol: in the place where they should be. If they aren't where you think they should be, your opinion on where they should be is wrong ;)


They are in ALB? You sure? I'm pretty sure the only bombers are Fighter Bombers.. and I'm sorry for missing the Victor, I didn't think..
On the subject of the two brit planes I did include, remember we should have Cat C's & what not


:roll:

I tried to be subtle but apparently you didn't catch it.

They are called STRATEGIC bombers for a reason, and they are represented on the campaign map in the form of the bombing raid ability.

They have no place in the tactical engagements that happen in real time. Period.
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