Czechoslovak People's Army v2 - RD DLC Discussion

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Re: Czechoslovak People's Army v2 - RD DLC Discussion

Postby homerfcb » Fri 25 Nov 2016 13:05

If it's a reroll of the polish Su-7, what Poland will get in return? I hope for some buffs(Krak to 10 points, -5points for Salamandra and Sokol, some Komandosi buff or whatever). As it is, it looks that POL-FIN coalition will totally be overshadowed by CSSR-YUG. Well, we'll have to wait for the release...
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Postby Sgt._Pepper » Fri 25 Nov 2016 13:40

homerfcb wrote:If it's a reroll of the polish Su-7, what Poland will get in return? I hope for some buffs(Krak to 10 points, -5points for Salamandra and Sokol, some Komandosi buff or whatever). As it is, it looks that POL-FIN coalition will totally be overshadowed by CSSR-YUG. Well, we'll have to wait for the release...


I don't think they mentioned a rerole, so I don't think Poland is going to lose anything.
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Postby homerfcb » Fri 25 Nov 2016 14:22

Sgt._Pepper wrote:
homerfcb wrote:If it's a reroll of the polish Su-7, what Poland will get in return? I hope for some buffs(Krak to 10 points, -5points for Salamandra and Sokol, some Komandosi buff or whatever). As it is, it looks that POL-FIN coalition will totally be overshadowed by CSSR-YUG. Well, we'll have to wait for the release...


I don't think they mentioned a rerole, so I don't think Poland is going to lose anything.

Well, the polish Su-7 is not that great anyway, however Poland (thus PL-FIN coalition) would still do nice with some little buffs. There's no reason why the Krak is still sitting at 15 points for example.
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Re: Czechoslovak People's Army v2 - RD DLC Discussion

Postby Razzmann » Fri 25 Nov 2016 14:32

homerfcb wrote:
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homerfcb wrote:If it's a reroll of the polish Su-7, what Poland will get in return? I hope for some buffs(Krak to 10 points, -5points for Salamandra and Sokol, some Komandosi buff or whatever). As it is, it looks that POL-FIN coalition will totally be overshadowed by CSSR-YUG. Well, we'll have to wait for the release...


I don't think they mentioned a rerole, so I don't think Poland is going to lose anything.

Well, the polish Su-7 is not that great anyway, however Poland (thus PL-FIN coalition) would still do nice with some little buffs. There's no reason why the Krak is still sitting at 15 points for example.

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Re: Czechoslovak People's Army v2 - RD DLC Discussion

Postby Steamfunk » Fri 25 Nov 2016 15:48

A Czech Su-17M4P could actually be multirole SEAD ie. a pair of Kh-25ML, MP and R-60s for self-defence. I say this not because I'm a fan of these DLCs, but because it would be a cool unit - you could take out a Roland and a pair of Leopards in one pass. Would also make NSWP mildly competitive.

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Postby morpher » Fri 25 Nov 2016 15:53

Steamfunk wrote:Would also make NSWP mildly competitive.


NSWP mildly competitive?

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Postby Steamfunk » Fri 25 Nov 2016 16:14

I don't have an answer to that, so here's a fact -

Zhukovsky (Russian: Жуко́вский) is a city in Moscow Oblast, Russia, located on the Moskva River, 40 kilometers (25 mi) southeast of Moscow.

It is home to the M. M. Gromov Flight Research Institute known as LII and N. Ye. Zhukovsky Central Aerohydrodynamic Institute known as TsAGI—they are two major facilities involved in testing and designing aircraft. These facilities were employers for a great portion of the city's population before perestroika. Also situated is the Aeromechanics faculty of MIPT.

There are a number smaller, but also important enterprises, such as:
V. V. Tikhomirov Scientific Research Institute of Instrument Design (NIIP),
Scientific Research Institute of Aviation Equipment (Научно-исследовательский институт авиационного оборудования, НИИАО, NIIAO),
Agate Moscow Scientific Research Institute (Московский научно-исследовательский институт «Агат», Агат, Agate),
Vladimir Myasishchev Experimental machine-building plant Myasishchev (Экспериментальный машиностроительный завод имени В.М.Мясищева, ЭМЗ, EMZ).

The airline Aviastar-TU has its head office in Zhukovsky. There are also some aviation design bureaus - Sukhoy, Ilyushin, Tupolev, etc. located in the area.

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Postby icehawk308 » Fri 25 Nov 2016 16:21

Steamfunk wrote:A Czech Su-17M4P could actually be multirole SEAD ie. a pair of Kh-25ML, MP and R-60s for self-defence. I say this not because I'm a fan of these DLCs, but because it would be a cool unit - you could take out a Roland and a pair of Leopards in one pass. Would also make NSWP mildly competitive.


Listen, I have no idea where you get these crazy ideas about actual good loadouts for REDFOR :| We've all learned that Eugen only allows these for the Capitalists. REDFOR has to make due lobbing sputnik era museum pieces at the enemy but thats the Socialist way!

Few years back we tried to make the Su-25T more useful by giving it Kh-58s instead of R-73s
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Re: Czechoslovak People's Army v2 - RD DLC Discussion

Postby Steamfunk » Fri 25 Nov 2016 19:11

Few years back we tried to make the Su-25T more useful by giving it Kh-58s instead of R-73s


Sorry to say I forgot that there's a coding problem which means it could only carry 2 missile types. I was thinking more along the lines that the Kh-25MP is more of a defensive weapon for small bomber groups, and the R-60 is the standard 'sidearm'.

Another thought I had was for the Su-25K to get a few S-25L rockets, which were probably never supplied to NSWP but let's be honest that hasn't matter much before. Being a standard S-25OFM with a laser seeker, it could have 50% accuracy and up to 2800m range, which would also be useful for SEAD.

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Postby CornProducts » Fri 25 Nov 2016 19:34

Steamfunk wrote:Another thought I had was for the Su-25K to get a few S-25L rockets, which were probably never supplied to NSWP but let's be honest that hasn't matter much before. Being a standard S-25OFM with a laser seeker, it could have 50% accuracy and up to 2800m range, which would also be useful for SEAD.

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