How to win with NATO ships only.


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Re: How to win with NATO ships only.

Postby iwancoppa » Sun 13 Apr 2014 09:53

That was fun to watch, it's fortunate that the PACT player didn't have a proper blob of tarantuls and nanushkas.
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Re: How to win with NATO ships only.

Postby Wintermote » Sun 13 Apr 2014 09:55

iwancoppa wrote:That was fun to watch, it's fortunate that the PACT player didn't have a proper blob of tarantuls and nanushkas.

The implication is that this would've done anything to change the outcome.

It wouldn't have.

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Re: How to win with NATO ships only.

Postby Rufus Shinra » Sun 13 Apr 2014 09:57

Wintermote wrote:
iwancoppa wrote:That was fun to watch, it's fortunate that the PACT player didn't have a proper blob of tarantuls and nanushkas.

The implication is that this would've done anything to change the outcome.

It wouldn't have.

Except for shelling your gunboats to death, stunning them, causing critical hits and panicking them, preventing them from having any kind of precision with their ATGM.

If it doesn't change anything, show us a replay of your gunboat swarm crushing a blob of Tarantul and Nanushka. It should be easy, right?

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Re: How to win with NATO ships only.

Postby iwancoppa » Sun 13 Apr 2014 10:30

^^^

A blob of nanushka and taruntul would happily spam you to death with a huge number of longer ranged cannon shells...
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Re: How to win with NATO ships only.

Postby Moonijuana » Sun 13 Apr 2014 10:51

Yeah, I have smashed a large series of ATGM boats with simultaneous NATO air spam in games. Nanus, Tarants, Hajins, DDs, that Chinese Frigate with the HQ-7 and the Luda spaced correctly those ships will defeat any ship/plane threat that NATO has to offer.

Provided:

You turn the ASMs off until you can release a swam of them to overwhelm NATO CIWS.

You steam into air spam to close distance so that your AA launches at them as they Winchester.

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Re: How to win with NATO ships only.

Postby Mot » Sun 13 Apr 2014 11:56

Nice! That was fun to watch!

And what amazing music was that?

"Shake shake shake!" will be singing on my head for months to come... curse you! :D
"I suck at Wargame" or "I have to wait 30 minutes to pubstomp people" are not solid arguments to criticize the game... just saying.

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Re: How to win with NATO ships only.

Postby Wintermote » Mon 14 Apr 2014 06:05

Rufus Shinra wrote:Except for shelling your gunboats to death, stunning them, causing critical hits and panicking them, preventing them from having any kind of precision with their ATGM.

If it doesn't change anything, show us a replay of your gunboat swarm crushing a blob of Tarantul and Nanushka. It should be easy, right?


iwancoppa wrote:A blob of nanushka and taruntul would happily spam you to death with a huge number of longer ranged cannon shells...


Hey, you can talk all you want, act like know-it-alls all you want. I have actual gameplay video showing that REDFOR doesn't have a chance against ATGM spam.

Further, let me explain precisely why both of your 'counters' don't work:

1. This is an opener. You don't have the points to buy an effective counter unless you are doing so beforehand
2. Tarantul's and Nanushka's are counters to this
3. Countering this as an opener requires your entire team keeping their fleet together.
4. Ship cannons are too innaccurate and do too little damage to actually effectively stop these boats if you actually do try and counter with Tarantuls and Nanushkas (which is idiotic to do in the extreme)
5. As evidenced in the video, which apparently neither of you actually watched, the ATGM swarm drove right through 9 warships, and had over 50% of their original strength remaining after killing 2 Jianghu's, 1 sovremney, 2 Nanushkas, 2 hijians, and a puma helicopter. In fact, their trail of destruction didn't end until they ran out of ammo.
6. If cannons were going to stop this, it would've happened when the fleet of ATGM riverboats were being pounded by the Luda, Sovremney, 2 Jianghu's, 3 Nanushka's, 2 Hijians, the puma, and multiple Su-27's, A-5's and Migs making gun runs all at the same time. In fact, that fleet took about another 3-6 minutes to kill after the video ended, in spite of just sitting there doing nothing with no ammo. So your claims that a few Tarantuls and Nanushkas would've stopped it are total bull.
7. The ATGM riverboat fleet forced the entire REDFOR navy back into their spawn to deal with it, leaving the rest of the entire map open for NATO to exploit and control as a direct result.
8. If the riverboats had retreated to re-arm after using up their ammo, the second wave of them would've cleaned up the entire REDFOR fleet by themselves.
9. Riverboats cannot be targeted by ASM's, nor can their ATGM's be shot down by CIWS.

Meta right now is: NATO wins so long as they cheese it out with CF-18 and Superhornet spam accompanied with ATGM riverboat rushes.

The best unit to use as a counter against ATGM riverboats is probably the Shainghai on PACT. NOT Tarantuls and Nanushkas. (wtf?)
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Re: How to win with NATO ships only.

Postby Cullen's Hound » Mon 14 Apr 2014 07:19

That video Is not available in my country.

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Re: How to win with NATO ships only.

Postby Guggy » Mon 14 Apr 2014 08:12

Lol the poor MiGs at the end just resorting to cannon runs :(

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