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Re: List of missing NATO ships

Postby another505 » Mon 14 Apr 2014 02:40

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Bryan wrote:Iowa Class Battleship DESTROYER-CRUISER- FRIGATE-CORVETTE

Kirov-class battlecr.. patrolling boat. :mrgreen:[/quote
yup the kirov is a patrol boat only, it should be in game!! :lol:
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Re: List of missing NATO ships

Postby Mike » Mon 14 Apr 2014 02:58

Corsair wrote:
Bryan wrote:Iowa Class Battleship DESTROYER-CRUISER- FRIGATE-CORVETTE

Kirov-class battlecr.. patrolling boat. :mrgreen:

I raise to Montana class... landing craft ;)
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Postby CommissarDornez » Mon 14 Apr 2014 03:11

German Navy:
Gepard-class (If there's one ship that I'd like added it would be this, Blufor answer to the Komar)

Royal/Australian/New Zealand Navy:
Leander-class (Type 12I)
Adelaide-class (Modified Oliver Hazard Perry)
Anzac-class (Commisioned in 96' - Prototype ship maybe?)


These are the ones I know, good luck with the rest. It's going to be one hell of a list.
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Re: List of missing NATO ships

Postby GabrielColt » Mon 14 Apr 2014 03:17

CommissarDornez wrote:German Navy:
Gepard-class (If there's one ship that I'd like added it would be this, Blufor answer to the Komar)

Royal/Australian/New Zealand Navy:
Leander-class (Type 12I)
Adelaide-class (Modified Oliver Hazard Perry)
Anzac-class (Commisioned in 96' - Prototype ship maybe?)


These are the ones I know, good luck with the rest. It's going to be one hell of a list.


You forget the german Bismarck-Class gun boat :lol:

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Re: List of missing NATO ships

Postby CommissarDornez » Mon 14 Apr 2014 03:19

GabrielColt wrote:You forget the german Bismarck-Class gun boat :lol:


That'd make one hell of a gun boat. :D
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Re: List of missing NATO ships

Postby TankHunter » Mon 14 Apr 2014 03:32

Wondering why the Spruance was not chosen over or in addition to the OHP, either in basic form or in the VLS upgraded edition. Reasons being:
Destroyer
Covers same time frame as the OHP
Has an upgraded version for 1990s.
Upgraded edition with VLS(Which replaced the ASROC launcher)
Possible RIM-116 fitted version(Better Anti Missile ability)
I think it could use TASM's.
Doesn't

Of course none of this matters as much as the lack of ships in general, especially when we could have had some cool German naval craft, like the Gepard Class, or more British, French, and North Korean ships.
South Korea has no CV boats either IIRC.
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Re: List of missing NATO ships

Postby Razorsson » Mon 14 Apr 2014 06:08

GabrielColt wrote:
CommissarDornez wrote:German Navy:
Gepard-class (If there's one ship that I'd like added it would be this, Blufor answer to the Komar)

Royal/Australian/New Zealand Navy:
Leander-class (Type 12I)
Adelaide-class (Modified Oliver Hazard Perry)
Anzac-class (Commisioned in 96' - Prototype ship maybe?)


These are the ones I know, good luck with the rest. It's going to be one hell of a list.


You forget the german Bismarck-Class gun boat :lol:


German H-44 RHIB :mrgreen:
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Re: List of missing NATO ships

Postby HiMAT » Mon 14 Apr 2014 07:39

TankHunter wrote:Wondering why the Spruance was not chosen over or in addition to the OHP, either in basic form or in the VLS upgraded edition. Reasons being:
Destroyer
Covers same time frame as the OHP
Has an upgraded version for 1990s.
Upgraded edition with VLS(Which replaced the ASROC launcher)
Possible RIM-116 fitted version(Better Anti Missile ability)
I think it could use TASM's.
Doesn't

Of course none of this matters as much as the lack of ships in general, especially when we could have had some cool German naval craft, like the Gepard Class, or more British, French, and North Korean ships.
South Korea has no CV boats either IIRC.


I am more disturbed by the decision to add Kongo instead of Burke. Japanese Navy during the cold war was asymetrically balanced, as they were designed to rely on the seventh fleet for air cover while they focus on ASW operations. This could have been represented by implementing the Burke class and Japanese frigates. (There were a lot of them) But instead, the 'numerous frigate' role is filled by the OHP and AAW is done by the Kongo class. Something is wrong here.
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Re: List of missing ships

Postby CornProducts » Mon 14 Apr 2014 08:15

I can only imagine how long it takes to model those massive ships though, with all the little in and out bits. If you had to pick only a handful Eugen could reasonably get done, what would they be?
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Re: List of missing ships

Postby HiMAT » Mon 14 Apr 2014 09:02

CornProducts wrote:I can only imagine how long it takes to model those massive ships though, with all the little in and out bits. If you had to pick only a handful Eugen could reasonably get done, what would they be?


Burke Class
Would be a great representation of the US 7th Fleet, which would have supported used the Japanese "Frigate armada" cannon fodder / ASW screen. It was the dominant player in the Pacific, and it is pitiful that it is reduced to OHPs.

Gearing Class
Could work as a command ship for South Korea, and 6 5inch guns will sure be a nice addition.

Charles F. Adams Class
Mediocre "spammable" destroyer comparable to the Type 21, but with better guns (2 5 inches). While the ship itself would not add anything, it could be made into two other classes with minimal modification, them being:

Lutjens Class
Charles F. Adams Class with different layout and fitted with 8 cell Harpoon launchers and 2 launchers for RAM launchers. Of course, it will have to cost more.
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Perth Class
Adams with ARSOC replaced by Ikara, and fitted with Phalanxes after 1990.

Type 23
VLS Seawolf and 8 Harpoons, fit for a decent ship-of-the-blob. Would provide a nice CIWS umbrella.

Type 42 (Later batches)
Sea Dart would provide nice, long range AA cover. This would be a good representation of the actual NATO naval doctrine.
Also, it is well known :) (though for being bad. Time to disprove such reputation >:))

Gepard Class
Comparable to the Komar class, fitted with RAM to make a nice umbrella. The extra Harpoons would also allow it to conduct its original role as a FAC.

Suffren Class
Good AA. Looks unique, and offers 2 100mm cannons.
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