How to counter SU-27S

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How to counter SU-27S

Postby e22big » Mon 21 Apr 2014 11:40

As a NATO player I found SU-27 armed with R-27 Alamo to be very threatening and hard to counter as they have a very superior range, this couple with the fact that Flanker have exceptional air detection and good ECM make it very hard to get close in my AIM range without getting shoot first (and those Alamo never missed!!)

True AMRAAM may be fire and forget which allow my fighter to turn back before being detected and shoot back by enemy fighters but Flanker also have exceptional air detection. It's absolutely impossible to sneak and launch AIM-120 without being shoot first with the Alamo.

For now the best I can came up with is using Rafale which have a medium stealth, making it easier to get closer to the Flanker and launch AIM, otherwise it is very difficult to archive Air Superiority without heavy reliance on SAM. And now that F- 14 and its Phoenix missiles are gone, Fighting Flanker is harder than ever for the NATO!

Any suggestions?

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Re: How to counter SU-27S

Postby Mumbles » Mon 21 Apr 2014 11:49

Lots of low end jets with Vulcans. You can get two or three Starfighters or cheap Phantoms for the same price as a Flanker, and with a little bit of sensible usage you can bait the Flanker and force it to overextend. That's when you go full throttle for a gun run - don't expect AAMs to do much. If they do hit, it's a bonus. If not, you've got a five second window whilst the Flanker evacs to fill it full of 20mm holes. ECM doesn't count for much with three cannons hosing it down. Sure, you lose two of your jets, maybe even all three, but you break even on points.

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Postby rPoXoTauJIo » Mon 21 Apr 2014 11:52

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Postby T80U = tankbankai » Mon 21 Apr 2014 11:54

The F 15C Eagle, Eurofighter and Rafael are your best options. however the SU 27PU is unstoppable, that is the BEST ASF in the game, nothing can compare to it.

I know you wanted planes but ECM doesn't effect SPAAG's, i find them useful for dealing a little damage while panicking the plane.
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Re: How to counter SU-27S

Postby 中铁四局 » Mon 21 Apr 2014 11:58

T80U = tankbankai wrote:The F 15C Eagle, Eurofighter and Rafael are your best options. however the SU 27PU is unstoppable, that is the BEST ASF in the game, nothing can compare to it.

I know you wanted planes but ECM doesn't effect SPAAG's, i find them useful for dealing a little damage while panicking the plane.



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Re: How to counter SU-27S

Postby QuakeRiley » Mon 21 Apr 2014 12:09

15 Crusaders tend to kill them.
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Re: How to counter SU-27S

Postby Odinspear » Mon 21 Apr 2014 12:09

Rafales and Su-27PUs.jpg
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Hmm, so you were calling Su-27PUs unstoppable? Have you ever compared Rafales and Su-27PUs? If you have eyes that everybody else had, this picture shall explain everything.

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Re: How to counter SU-27S

Postby QuakeRiley » Mon 21 Apr 2014 12:12

Odinspear wrote:
Rafales and Su-27PUs.jpg

Hmm, so you were calling Su-27PUs unstoppable? Have you ever compared Rafales and Su-27PUs? If you have eyes that everybody else had, this picture shall explain everything.


But the Su-27PU has that 2800m range on ground targets obviously making it OP and needing to be increased to 250 points. How dare you even say France is strong, the Rafale should obviously be cheaper with higher avail because it needs some added flavour.
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Re: How to counter SU-27S

Postby 中铁四局 » Mon 21 Apr 2014 12:16

QuakeRiley wrote:
Odinspear wrote:
Rafales and Su-27PUs.jpg

Hmm, so you were calling Su-27PUs unstoppable? Have you ever compared Rafales and Su-27PUs? If you have eyes that everybody else had, this picture shall explain everything.


But the Su-27PU has that 2800m range on ground targets obviously making it OP and needing to be increased to 250 points. How dare you even say France is strong, the Rafale should obviously be cheaper with higher avail because it needs some added flavour.


make sense, the 2800m vs. Ground is COMPLETELY UNACCEPTABLE, PLZ NERF!
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Re: How to counter SU-27S

Postby admiral9 » Mon 21 Apr 2014 12:17

T80U = tankbankai wrote:The F 15C Eagle, Eurofighter and Rafael are your best options. however the SU 27PU is unstoppable, that is the BEST ASF in the game, nothing can compare to it.

I know you wanted planes but ECM doesn't effect SPAAG's, i find them useful for dealing a little damage while panicking the plane.


A: the rafale is both better and cheaper then the su27PU.

B: the typhoon almost equalls it.

C: ECM effects everything including SPAAGS its a flat modifier.

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