Some questions regarding AA guns

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Some questions regarding AA guns

Postby Chronosheep » Wed 23 Apr 2014 01:20

Do anybody know if the ROF and HE values given for the AA guns in this game are accurate?
Alternatively, are there any hidden stats etc?

If the given values are accurate, I really can't understand the pricing of these units.
Since the HE value is equal to 1 for all weapons, regardless of their caliber (why??), the DPS of these weapons should (in the absence of any hidden stats) logically be given exclusively by their ROF (and their accuracy).
Now, how does it make sense e.g. the Gepard A2 costs the same as a PGZ-95, but has a factor 4 lower rate of fire?
Its armor is slightly better, but then again its accuracy is lower, and its missiles are substantially worse, so this kinda evens out.

Comparing range 2800 units vs range 2625 units, the general trend seems to be that range 2625 units have a factor 4-5 higher rate of fire than range 2800 units while being cheaper and equally accurate.

Am I missing something here?

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Re: Some questions regarding AA guns

Postby Mako » Wed 23 Apr 2014 01:30

Listed ROF means nothing at all.

(For high numbers, lower ones and infantry values do mean something)

I proposed a fix for this, in having it be a multiple of the true number of dice rolls, but it didn't go anywhere.

It stays a meaningless stat.
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Re: Some questions regarding AA guns

Postby Chronosheep » Wed 23 Apr 2014 01:34

Mako wrote:Listed ROF means nothing at all.

(For high numbers, lower ones and infantry values do mean something)

I proposed a fix for this, in having it be a multiple of the true number of dice rolls, but it didn't go anywhere.

It stays a meaningless stat.

Thanks, that's very useful to know.

Has anybody done any testing to see what the relation between their true DPS values are?

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Re: Some questions regarding AA guns

Postby RedDevilCG » Wed 23 Apr 2014 01:41

Not yet. They seem to be a fairly ignored unit as far as going under the microscope is concerned.
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Re: Some questions regarding AA guns

Postby Mako » Wed 23 Apr 2014 01:53

I don't think there is one.

True values can be found here:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/94n9gasvrrk22 ... Newest.xls
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Re: Some questions regarding AA guns

Postby Chronosheep » Wed 23 Apr 2014 02:02

Mako wrote:I don't think there is one.

True values can be found here:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/94n9gasvrrk22 ... Newest.xls

This is excellent!
Thanks for sharing.

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