Mike wrote: J0h1F wrote:
Here's a picture of a BMP-2 in Finnish service with the launcher for the 9M113 Konkurs (PSTOHJ 82M) missiles attached. On a reasonable number of the vehicles they were kept as long as the acquired missiles had shelf life left, and were scrapped just in the 2000's.
So that's one thing the game has wrong, there should be a variant of the BMP-2 with Konkurs in Finnish transports too.
Tiera wrote:We both know that Finland isn't the worst offender in that regard, on the contrary.
As for the BMP-2: AFAIK this was a post-Cold War doctrinal change, introduced after they had enough launcher units to re-arm the Brigade-level AT Companies with TOWs.
According to my source (https://maanpuolustus.net/threads/miehist%C3%B6n-kuljetus.762/page-249#post-529981
, link in Finnish), a FDF armored jaeger/panssarijääkäri trainer officer (who goes under the nickname "CV9030FIN" on some internet forums, he probably has been quoted here in earlier instances too), the Konkurs launcher was a part of the original installation from the 1988 acquisition already. Though, because it was difficult to use and could not be fired while on the move, it was often dismounted when possible to be used on foot, as per the tactics.
The ammo stack was 4 missiles in each BMP-2.
The Konkurs launchers were removed from the BMP-2's (and BMP-1's) in 2003, when the PSTOHJ 82M (Konkurs) was scrapped FDF-wide.
The BMP-1 which were acquired from GDR stocks however at the end of the Cold War, were modified to the BMP-1PS standard between 1993 and 1996 (and the missile launcher was changed from the standard 9M14 Malyutka to the new 9P135M-1 Konkurs launcher), so the system was easier to use (I've yet got to ask more about them). But even despite this, the tactic was to dismount the Konkurs launchers usually when possible.
EDIT: while there were the launchers for the Malyutka, missiles were never procured for them, so that's a moot case.
So I see it that both the BMP-2 w/o Konkurs and BMP-2 with Konkurs should be available for Finland. So should the BMP-1 have possibly also a 1993 proto with the Konkurs.