Yugoslavia in Red Dragon

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Re: Yugoslavia

Postby Tiera » Thu 19 May 2016 03:09

VJ should definitively join to the fray, so that Zastava M53
can show that Redfor nations are also capable of producing sinister-sounding chainsaws:
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Re: Yugoslavia

Postby orcbuster » Thu 19 May 2016 04:01

Redfor MG3?

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Re: Yugoslavia

Postby another505 » Thu 19 May 2016 04:52

orcbuster wrote:Redfor MG3?

Dear god.....

True doom is imminent

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Re: [Non-included nation] YUGOSLAVIA

Postby [EUG]MadMat » Thu 19 May 2016 09:31

Thread merged with the existing one. Please, for those nations already detailed earlier, used the existing ones for:
- it is the rule, and I am the Law!
- avoid spreading ideas over several threads: you may now have understood that I keep good watch on those nation request threads to complement my own army lists, and I rather keep all suggestions for a single nation gahered into a single thread.

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Re: Yugoslavia

Postby Aubustou » Thu 19 May 2016 09:53

orcbuster wrote:Redfor MG3?

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MG42 actually, even better...
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Re: [Non-included nation] YUGOSLAVIA

Postby CornProducts » Thu 19 May 2016 15:10

I was hoping to see icehawks thread over here instead, but I guess this will do.
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Re: Yugoslavia

Postby Mike » Thu 19 May 2016 15:24

Aubustou wrote:
orcbuster wrote:Redfor MG3?

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MG42 actually, even better...


MG42? Sorry can't add it. Might bring out the weraboos. ;)
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Re: [Non-included nation] YUGOSLAVIA

Postby 47andrej » Thu 19 May 2016 18:45

Icehawk's list is a lot more detailed, also it has actual W:RD timeline (up to 91 non-proto) while this one iirc is from ALBish time (up to 85).
T-55AI Igman
T-55H-1
M-84A ERA
M90 Vihor
M95 Degman (debatable)
All these sweet MBT's are missing. And boy, Yugoslavia would wipe the floor with half of bluefor if it goes about own designed and produced vehicles.

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Re: [Non-included nation] YUGOSLAVIA

Postby 47andrej » Thu 19 May 2016 21:29

Yugoslavian Nora B52
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"The first self-propelled Nora B(developed on basis of Nora C) was designed by MTI in 1984 (in that time no other country except SFRY had that kind of weapon today known with acronym TMG - Truck Mounted Gun) with a modified 152 mm towed gun-howitzer NORA M84 with 45 caliber gun mounted on an FAP 8x8 truck bed and was 3 generation of artillery weapons."

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Re: [Non-included nation] YUGOSLAVIA

Postby icehawk308 » Fri 20 May 2016 00:56

[EUG]MadMat wrote:Thread merged with the existing one. Please, for those nations already detailed earlier, used the existing ones for:
- it is the rule, and I am the Law!
- avoid spreading ideas over several threads: you may now have understood that I keep good watch on those nation request threads to complement my own army lists, and I rather keep all suggestions for a single nation gahered into a single thread.


Alright you asked for it Madmat:

Yugoslavia
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Infantry
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Yugoslavian infantry features impressive sniper rifles as well as RCL units as its use of manportable ATGMS is relatively late (Fagot, Bumbar in the 90s).

Territorial Defense Force
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The Territorial Defense (TO) were a separate part of the armed forces of the former Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia. The forces acted as a Home Guard which roughly corresponded to a military reserve force or an official governmental paramilitary. Each of the Yugoslav constituent republics had its own Territorial Defense military formations, while the regular army for the whole Federation was the Yugoslav People's Army (JNA), which also maintained its own reserve forces.

The Territorial Defense or TO were formed in 1969 as an integral part of the Yugoslav Total National Defense doctrine. The TO forces consisted of able-bodied civilian males and females. Between 1 and 3 million Yugoslavs between the ages of 15 and 65 would fight under TO command as irregular or guerrilla forces in wartime. In peacetime, however, about 860,000 TO troops were involved in military training and other activities.

The TO concept focused on small, lightly armed infantry units fighting defensive actions on a familiar local terrain. A typical unit was a company-sized detachment. More than 2000 communes, factories, and other enterprises organized such units, which would fight in their home areas, maintaining local defense production essential to the overall war effort. The TO also included some larger, more heavily equipped units with wider operational responsibilities. The TO battalions and regiments operated in regional areas with artillery and antiaircraft guns and some armoured vehicles. Using their mobility and tactical initiative, these units would attempt to alleviate the pressure of enemy armored columns and air strikes on smaller TO units. In the coastal regions, TO units had naval missions. They operated some gunboats in support of navy operations. They were organized to defend strategic coastal areas and naval facilities against enemy amphibious landings and raids. They also trained some divers for use in sabotage and other special operations.

The TO was helped by the fact that most of its citizen-soldiers were one-time JNA conscripts who had completed their term of compulsory military service. But TO recruitment was somewhat limited by the JNA desire to include as many recently released conscripts as possible in its own military reserve. Other sources of TO manpower lacked prior military service and required extensive basic training.

Militia squad.

63rd Parachute Battalion/ 63. Padobranski bataljon
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The 63rd Parachute Battalion (Serbian: 63. Падобрански батаљон tr. 63. Padobranski bataljon) is one of the battalions constituting the Special Brigade[1] of the Serbian Army. It used to be of brigade-size, but it has the status of a battalion within the restructured Serbian Army. It is intended for special, reconnaissance and diversionary operations deep behind enemy lines.

Elite Paras

Military Police Battalion Cobra/ Bataljon vojne policije specijalne namene "Kobre"
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The Military Police Special Operation Battalion "Cobras" (Serbian: Батаљон војне полиције специјалне намене "Кобрe", tr. Bataljon vojne policije specijalne namene "Kobre") is a military police unit of the Serbian military, responsible for counter-terrorism, close protection and special operations.

The unit was first established by the order of the Secretary of Defense in 1978. The unit was joined with the 282nd battalion of the JNA in 1988.


Mornarička Pešadijska Brigada
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The 12th Naval Infantry Brigade (Mornarička Pešadijska Brigada) were the marines of the Yugoslav Navy until 4 February 2003 when it became part the Navy of the State Union of Serbia and Montenegro. The 12th Naval Infantry Brigade was headquartered in the 8th Naval Sector at Split but was later moved near Kotor, a coastal town in Montenegro. A small detchament was located at Novi Sad on the Danube. The brigade consisted of 900 to 2000 men in two or three battalions. As a multi-ethnic unit, the brigade was broken up during the Breakup of Yugoslavia, and it saw little action. The largest remnant eventually moved to Montenegro.


Teritorijalna Odbrana (militia) - Kar98 Rifle, M57 Rocket Launcher
Strelci 75 (line infantry) - M59/66 (SKS), M57 Rocket Launcher, M53 Sarac (MG42) 8-)
Strelci 85 (line infantry) - M70 AR, M80 Zolja, M84 PK
Mornarička Pešadijska (marines, shock, 15 men) - M70 AR, M79 Osa, M72 RPK
63. Padobranski bataljon (elite, para) - M70A AR, M79 82mm RCL or Osa, M53 Sarac (MG42)
63. Padobranski bataljon 90 (elite, para) - M92 AKSU, Bumbar ATGM, M72 RPK
Bataljon Kobre (elite, urban warfare setup) - Skorpion SMG, M80 Zolja, M76 SR
Inženjeri (engineers) - M70 AR, LPO-50 flamethrower
FIST - M70 AR, M79 82mm RCL
ATGM 90 - M70 AR, Fagot-M ATGM
MANPADS 80 - M70 AR, Strela-2M
[*]MANPADS 95 - M70 AR, Igla-1


Weapons:
Skorpion SMG
M59/66 SAR (SKS)
M70 AR
M70A folding stock AR
M92 AKSU
M77 Battle Rifle (7.51 nato cal)

M76 SR
[*]M93 Black Arrow .50 1993
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[*]RT-20 20mm 1994
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20mm Sniper Rifle :twisted:

M53 Sarac (MG42)
M84 PK
M72 RPK

AT Weapons:
M57/58 RL
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M79 82mm RCL
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M79 Osa
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patterned after the French LRAC-89.


M80 Zolja
The appearance of M-80 is very reminiscent of an American rocket launcher M-72 LAW, but from his american rival M-80 have better accuracy and effective range.


M90 (APILAS knock off)
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Fagot-M ATGM 1989
[*]Bumbar ATGM (Eryx knock off), mid to late 90s if Yugo stayed together
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The Bumbar (Bumble-bee in Yugoslavian) is a Yugoslavian ATGM with "soft-launch" with a primary ejection charge before the secondary missile propulson kicks in. Bumbar also have very good counter-jamming abilities. It also features a highly manoeuvarble direct thrust vector control system located at the missile's center of gravity. R&D were stopped in the wake of the breakup of Yugoslavia and was put on hold until later. In 2005 Yugoimport-SDPR begun marketing the extended-range version of its Bumbar (Bumble Bee) anti-armour guided-weapon system. Penetration behind ERA 1000mm of RHA system reliability higher than 90% Single-shot hit probability more than 90%

25PEN SR improved Eryx :twisted:


AA Weapons:
Strela-2M - 1981
Strela-2M/A - mid 80s?
Igla-1 1995


Wheeled Transports:
BTR-152 1962
BTR-60PB 1966
TAB-71M 1980
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BOV-VP 1980
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LOV-OP 1992
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Tracked Transports:
BTR-50 1965
M-60P 1965
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M-60PB 1970
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Dual RRs 8-)

M-60P w/ 57mm rocket pod
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BMP-1 1972

M-80 1975
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20mm AC + Dual Malyutkas-Ms

M-80A 1984
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20mm AC + Dual Malyutka-Ps

M-80AK 1990
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30mm AC + Dual Malyutka-2

[*]VIU-55 Munja 2000
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Heavy engineer APC based off T-55 hull. IRL circa 2000 development but a communist timelime could allow for this rare beauty to make an appearance :idea:

Helicopter Transports:
Mi-4A 1964
Mi-8T 1968
Mi-8TV 1973+
[*]Mi-17V 1997

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