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Re: Longbows

Postby TheMarraMan » Mon 12 May 2014 00:31

I will say, for having the accuracy that it does it misses way to much. Maybe thats to balance out the fact that it has 16? But then whats the point? Paying high price for something with high accuracy weapons should hit most if not all its targets.

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Re: Longbows

Postby Awesome Cup » Mon 12 May 2014 00:34

I just don't see why the longbow gets the same optics as other exceptional helos despite it having a radar dish mounted on top
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Re: Longbows

Postby Forimar » Mon 12 May 2014 00:46

TheMarraMan wrote:I will say, for having the accuracy that it does it misses way to much. Maybe thats to balance out the fact that it has 16? But then whats the point? Paying high price for something with high accuracy weapons should hit most if not all its targets.


???? It's already at what seems to be the cap for ATGM ACC, what do you want? Statistically 3/4 missiles will hit. That's 12 missiles, or a few hundred points of dead units.

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Re: Longbows

Postby Sweedish_Gunner » Mon 12 May 2014 01:00

The Longbow is absolutely amazing, it's a piece of very specialised equipment with few roles. The few roles it does do however, it excels at, albeit with a tiny bit of mirco. Even then wasting missiles doesn't concern me much when it has so many. :P
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Re: Longbows

Postby ROFLtheWAFL » Mon 12 May 2014 01:16

I assume the first one or two missiles miss because the helicopter is still flying while they're being aimed and fired, and thus they have reduced accuracy. The solution would be to turn off the missiles, fly into range, wait for it to stop, and turn on missiles.
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Re: Longbows

Postby chykka » Mon 12 May 2014 03:41

Mortabis wrote:As mentioned the only problem with the longbow is that for some reason it has worse accuracy on the move. That combined with the huge supply consumption of hellfires makes it frustratingly wasteful. Still a good unit though.


no guys it has better aim while traveling at 300 km/h shooting at a moving target :roll:

I leave the missiles off until I want to start shooting, (which is usually when it's stopped) Same with Akula, and most helos I do that.
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Re: Longbows

Postby NATO Potato » Mon 12 May 2014 04:49

chykka wrote:
Mortabis wrote:As mentioned the only problem with the longbow is that for some reason it has worse accuracy on the move. That combined with the huge supply consumption of hellfires makes it frustratingly wasteful. Still a good unit though.


no guys it has better aim while traveling at 300 km/h shooting at a moving target :roll:

I leave the missiles off until I want to start shooting, (which is usually when it's stopped) Same with Akula, and most helos I do that.

apaches are more than capable of firing on the move. in theory, fire and forget missiles should have 100 percent accuracy that is only affected by countermeasure systems. but that would be terrible for balance, so they just get really high accuracy. the accuracy on the move should be the same as stationary though. the pilot isn't manually guiding those missiles like a semi active ATGM.

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Re: Longbows

Postby shomu1 » Mon 12 May 2014 08:44

Wow, a Longbow UP thread. Now I've seen everything.


That being said, I've had great luck using them to stop initial rushes. Sit them near a choke point with another cheaper helo to take the hits, and laugh maniacally as the enemy's advance disappears. If you add in a Nighthawk to suppress and/or kill the enemy's AA, it works even better.

My usual combo is a Longbow paired up with a Super Cobra. The Cobra acts as a meatshield to buy time for the Longbow to either kill the AA or pull back, and also deters some fighters. Just make sure the Cobra is closer to the enemy than the Longbow is, and they're spread out, or else the whole enterprise will be ruined (as happened to a friend of mine. He tried to do the same thing. A Crotale said NOPE. Both helos died in one missile hit. 'Twas very sad.)
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Re: Longbows

Postby Bryan » Mon 12 May 2014 09:40

Yeah, not a Longbow UP thread. You haven't seen everything.

So, I just used the Longbow, and it massacred alot of enemy tanks and even Strela-10Ms which I vehemently hate.

Keeping my beloved Apaches alive is tough in a PONGAE-3, Igla and Strela-10 filled environment......

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Re: Longbows

Postby chykka » Mon 12 May 2014 10:11

NATO Potato wrote:
chykka wrote:
Mortabis wrote:As mentioned the only problem with the longbow is that for some reason it has worse accuracy on the move. That combined with the huge supply consumption of hellfires makes it frustratingly wasteful. Still a good unit though.


no guys it has better aim while traveling at 300 km/h shooting at a moving target :roll:

I leave the missiles off until I want to start shooting, (which is usually when it's stopped) Same with Akula, and most helos I do that.

apaches are more than capable of firing on the move. in theory, fire and forget missiles should have 100 percent accuracy that is only affected by countermeasure systems. but that would be terrible for balance, so they just get really high accuracy. the accuracy on the move should be the same as stationary though. the pilot isn't manually guiding those missiles like a semi active ATGM.



Well yes it is F and F. But the missile is only so smart? and the game mechanics always consider stabilizers FandF or not.
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