Unit of the Day (RD version - DLC #1)

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Re: Unit of the Day (RD version - DLC #1)

Postby Random » Wed 2 Jul 2014 12:38

jonas165 wrote:
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[EUG]MadMat wrote:With NATO (Oerlikon) twin autocannons you mean?

Isn't Oerlikon Swiss, then not affiliated. If I remember well back in WW2 American ship had Oerlikon canon and German troops operated some Oerlikon canon. So it would be posible, wouldn't it ?


Swiss was neutral, but NATO orientated AFAIK. I am pretty sure they wouldn´t have sold thier weapons to NSWP.


I am from Switzerland, Oerlikon guns for redfor is probably not going to happen.

In WW2 Switzerland almost only sold weapons to the axis powers, due to being completly surrounded by them for almost the entire war. And more importantly they bought gold and enabled them to buy stuff with the swiss franc from other countries. In the cold war they were in a very similar position to Sweden, officially neutral, but pretty much working with Nato. I couldn`t find any information on cold war armssales, but I doubt that they sold weapons to the Warsaw Pact nations, or only very little.

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Joining the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO), the U.S.-led Western alliance, was never a serious option for a country that believed armed neutrality had been the best defense against Nazism and would also save the country from communism. The Cold War allowed Switzerland to again become a respectable member of the international community. Neutrality enabled it to play a mediating role between the two antagonistic camps, but, as a capitalist democracy with a strong citizens’ army, it was a tacit member of the noncommunist world and one of its key defenders. An interesting and complicated mixture of neutrality, isolationism, solidarity, anticommunism, and militarism became the common, often complacent ideology of most Swiss, be they bourgeois or socialist.


Source:http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/577225/Switzerland/257033/The-postwar-period

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Re: Unit of the Day (RD version - DLC #1)

Postby Darkmil » Wed 2 Jul 2014 12:58

@Random : I didn't knew, though I'm sure American ship used Oerlikon canon (aged from before the war I presume).
Thanks for making this clearer !
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Re: Unit of the Day (RD version - DLC #1)

Postby Vestly » Wed 2 Jul 2014 13:08

That Moderna looks great !

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Postby Firefly » Wed 2 Jul 2014 13:14

The Swiss didn't refrain from using Eastern equipment (albeit of Czechoslovakian/German origin). ;)

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Postby Flieger » Wed 2 Jul 2014 13:18

The Moderna is the best armoured NSWP-tank, but not the hardest hitting. On the other hand it has an auto-cannon. :mrgreen:
I am really interested how the player base will use that one, or if they prefer the hard hitter... or both?

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Postby qqsuen » Wed 2 Jul 2014 13:21

Nice addition! I do believe that it can use more texturing, though, the black ERA looks somehow weird on the tank, why not just paint them in camouflage as well?
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Re: Unit of the Day (RD version - DLC #1)

Postby naizarak » Wed 2 Jul 2014 13:37

Flieger wrote:The Moderna is the best armoured NSWP-tank, but not the hardest hitting. On the other hand it has an auto-cannon. :mrgreen:
I am really interested how the player base will use that one, or if they prefer the hard hitter... or both?


in that case it won't be very popular. firepower > armor. if it doesn't get an atgm then the effect is even worse

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Re: Unit of the Day (RD version - DLC #1)

Postby Mike » Wed 2 Jul 2014 14:13

naizarak wrote:
Flieger wrote:The Moderna is the best armoured NSWP-tank, but not the hardest hitting. On the other hand it has an auto-cannon. :mrgreen:
I am really interested how the player base will use that one, or if they prefer the hard hitter... or both?


in that case it won't be very popular. firepower > armor. if it doesn't get an atgm then the effect is even worse

I like my tanks without the ATGMs. Makes them cheaper.
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Re: Unit of the Day (RD version - DLC #1)

Postby Sweedish_Gunner » Wed 2 Jul 2014 14:15

Yeah armour isn't all that useful, just look at the French tank line, they're still great despite bad armour.

Or look at T-72BU vs. T-80UM. The UM is pretty much always chosen due to the higher accuracy and RoF. So by saying harder hitting, are we talking strictly better AP, or a combination of higher AP, RoF and accuracy?
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Re: Unit of the Day (RD version - DLC #1)

Postby Mr0Buggy » Wed 2 Jul 2014 14:21

Flieger wrote:The Moderna is the best armoured NSWP-tank, but not the hardest hitting. On the other hand it has an auto-cannon. :mrgreen:
I am really interested how the player base will use that one, or if they prefer the hard hitter... or both?


Actually, from what I've just learned, it appears that Moderna's "low" (so to speak) AP is a mistake. Ergo, it will also be a death dealer along with it's other Eastern Bloc armored brethren.

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