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T-80BV

Postby HoveringKiller » Wed 24 Sep 2014 14:47

Why does everybody say this tank sucks? It seems like it's in a fairly decent place. It's the same price as the T-64BV1 (which I've heard people say this is a good tank choice), but it has 1 less ap, one less top armor, and 4 less rounds in its gun, and slightly less autonomous, but goes slightly faster, has 1 more side armor, has 4 atgm missiles.
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Re: T-80BV

Postby D-M » Wed 24 Sep 2014 14:53

Because most people like to whine for no reason. "waah wahh GLATM sucks, make it free"
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Re: T-80BV

Postby Kin-Luu » Wed 24 Sep 2014 14:59

Because you can simply take the T-64BV1 instead? Which is - as you found out yourself - better, but shares the same price and availability.
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Re: T-80BV

Postby Norim0101 » Wed 24 Sep 2014 14:59

I don't say this tank sucks but I just don't like atgms on my tanks to be honest
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Re: T-80BV

Postby Tiera » Wed 24 Sep 2014 15:02

Because if you want a better Soviet tank for the same cost you go to T-64BV1, and if you want a tank with ATGM you can get the T-80A with Svir and smaller cost, because of... reasons? :roll:
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Re: T-80BV

Postby Azaz3l » Wed 24 Sep 2014 15:43

D-M wrote:Because most people like to whine for no reason. "waah wahh GLATM sucks, make it free"

Yes Kobra is totally a good missile for a 120 pt tank.
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Re: T-80BV

Postby HoveringKiller » Wed 24 Sep 2014 16:17

Azaz3l wrote:
D-M wrote:Because most people like to whine for no reason. "waah wahh GLATM sucks, make it free"

Yes Kobra is totally a good missile for a 120 pt tank.


Except the gun only has 1 less ap power, and an armor point moved from top of T-64BV1, for an atgm. That seems like a fair trade off. Does it not? Or is there something else I'm missing?
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Re: T-80BV

Postby HoveringKiller » Wed 24 Sep 2014 16:20

Norim0101 wrote:I don't say this tank sucks but I just don't like atgms on my tanks to be honest


That's a completely fair point as well. I guess it boils down to do I want that ATGM to get the one extra hit on them before I get into gun range, so my 1 less ap gun still does a similair amount of work to the BV1.
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Re: T-80BV

Postby Mumbles » Wed 24 Sep 2014 16:24

D-M wrote:Because most people like to whine for no reason. "waah wahh GLATM sucks, make it free"


Uh, no. The T-80BV is in a very poor place. If you're looking for a gun tank, the T-64BV1 costs the same and has the same availability but has higher AP. If you're looking for a missile tank the T-80A again has the same availability but costs less and has an ATGM that is superior in every way. If you're looking for a combination gun and missile tank, the T-72B is much cheaper and has higher availability with a superior ATGM; all it loses is armor, the ability to fire the ATGM on the move, and small reductions in ROF, accuracy, and stabilizer for the main gun. I haven't seen a T-80BV since ALB.
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Re: T-80BV

Postby HoveringKiller » Wed 24 Sep 2014 16:25

Mumbles wrote:
D-M wrote:Because most people like to whine for no reason. "waah wahh GLATM sucks, make it free"


Uh, no. The T-80BV is in a very poor place. If you're looking for a gun tank, the T-64BV1 costs the same and has the same availability but has higher AP. If you're looking for a missile tank the T-80A again has the same availability but costs less and has an ATGM that is superior in every way. I haven't seen a T-80BV since ALB.


But the BV gives the best of both worlds. The AP is only 1 difference, so again feels like a fair trade off to loose 1 ap and gain an atgm.

Edit: So just looked at the T-80A's stats, and what if this had a price increase to 125, so then you'd be paying more for the refleks atgm carrier?
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