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Re: Unit of the Day (RD version - DLC #3)

Postby GARGEAN » Tue 7 Oct 2014 17:54

[EUG]MadMat wrote:
GARGEAN wrote:They are not including S-300 just because they are really afraid of being drown in tears of natoplayers...

Surely not, we're giving the idea full consideration.
As much as ALB's British SEAD, under the same circumstances ...

Excuses... So much excuses...
But in reality you just don't know another way to give some handouts to your primary customer except time by time violate your words about "beyond the scale" units. Just playing with the stats is not enought already.

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On Patriot again ...

Postby GARGEAN » Tue 7 Oct 2014 18:24

[EUG]MadMat wrote:Paranoid whines have always been the best way to be taken seriously, indeed ...

Ah? I'm a Doom Prophet, you still don't mind it?
But in serious, just can't see any logic in such decision. Fitst givins such ridiculous unit, and after so hardly deny it's antagonist.
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Re: Unit of the Day (RD version - DLC #3)

Postby Darkmil » Tue 7 Oct 2014 18:26

GARGEAN wrote:
[EUG]MadMat wrote:Paranoid whines have always been the best way to be taken seriously, indeed ...

Ah? I'm a Doom Prophet, you still don't mind it?
But in serious, just can't see aly logic in such decision. Fitst givins such ridiculous unit, and after so hardly deny it's antagonist.

Because the said opponents has no need for it.
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Re: Unit of the Day (RD version - DLC #3)

Postby GARGEAN » Tue 7 Oct 2014 18:29

But America did?
This isnt just "good AA piece", this is AA, overlaping ALL AAA ranges in game, And this is not good.

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Re: Unit of the Day (RD version - DLC #3)

Postby Darkmil » Tue 7 Oct 2014 18:30

GARGEAN wrote:But America did?
This isnt just "good AA piece", this is AA, overlaping ALL AAA ranges in game, And this is not good.

They had no fast Radar AA. And yes the Patriot is overkill.
And no one in his right mind could disagree with the fact that USA had a weaker ADN than URSS
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Re: Unit of the Day (RD version - DLC #3)

Postby Mike » Tue 7 Oct 2014 18:32

GARGEAN wrote:But America did?
This isnt just "good AA piece", this is AA, overlaping ALL AAA ranges in game, And this is not good.


I wouldn't say the US needed it by any means, but HAWKs are trash compared to Buk's.
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Re: Unit of the Day (RD version - DLC #3)

Postby Sunshine » Tue 7 Oct 2014 18:41

Mike wrote:
GARGEAN wrote:But America did?
This isnt just "good AA piece", this is AA, overlaping ALL AAA ranges in game, And this is not good.


I wouldn't say the US needed it by any means, but HAWKs are trash compared to Buk's.

Spot on.
I made aprivate mod to rename the PIPIII into "fail-HAWK PIPIII".
Cause it really always fails if you're used to "Russian standards".

The Patriot needs some work, at least a juicy price nerf of at least +20pts, at least.
For what it can do, it could also cost 200pts to be honest. I'd still use it.
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Re: Unit of the Day (RD version - DLC #3)

Postby Woozle » Tue 7 Oct 2014 18:42

Darkmil wrote:And no one in his right mind could disagree with the fact that USA had a weaker ADN than URSS


Historical Weakness.

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Re: On Patriot again ...

Postby GARGEAN » Tue 7 Oct 2014 18:42

Yes, HAWK was a trach. But why not to buff it acc? Why dont give another mod of it, with lesser AH range, but better AP capabilities?
Why giving some fantastic unit?
And by the way: yes, US is have badder radar AA. Only RADAR! But it have Raven, Provler, weasel.... When USSR have only Su24 and good, but ONLY ONE MiG25.
Wasnt thas "assimetrical balanse", which Eugens cram us?
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Re: On Patriot again ...

Postby awesomesauce47 » Tue 7 Oct 2014 18:42

This comes as zero surprise to me, this would not be the first time they develop their game of off annoying posters on the forum. It is never a good idea to balance a game off of hurt feelings or the annoyances of a minority. Eugen please change this if true.

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