On Patriot again ...

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Re: On Patriot again ...

Postby KattiValk » Sat 1 Nov 2014 17:50

another505 wrote:it still has better accuracy than buk and the range, BUKm1's range is under sead, so the sead player can circle around outside of the range and threaten it,
It's just better than the BUK, but in use, it shares a roughly equivalent role. Frankly, outranging the SEAD is a fairly big gamble due to SEAD ignoring weapons off if they already got a missile off the rack. Circling the range of roughly 30 HE's worth (give or take crits) of missiles that can be fired in one volley is pretty terrifying notion especially with the terribly inaccurate aircraft controlling system.

Is the Pat better than the BUK? Yes. Is it so OP that REDFOR simply isn't allowed to use planes? No.

I think the best ways to nerf it are simply to make it slower (I'm talking slow wheeled, it should still be fairly nimble as that was the point of adding it in the first place) and reduce the autonomy. The price could also go up a bit, but the already high supply per missile is fine as is.

Also, I forgot. Nerf it to one card.

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Re: On Patriot again ...

Postby another505 » Sat 1 Nov 2014 18:03

Honestly, just nerf it to bukm1 accuracy and range
that would be fine and still deadly

About circling around, bukm1 has less range than top end sead, so if done right, the sead wont be locked on while remaining a thread to the buks
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Postby Solo » Sat 1 Nov 2014 18:08

Card/pricing/autonomy/speed should be looked at and any range below 5250m and accuracy below 70% is inauthentic.

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Re: On Patriot again ...

Postby KattiValk » Sat 1 Nov 2014 18:21

another505 wrote:Honestly, just nerf it to bukm1 accuracy and range
that would be fine and still deadly

About circling around, bukm1 has less range than top end sead, so if done right, the sead wont be locked on while remaining a thread to the buks
Eh, nerfing it to that doesn't make sense. I still want to give it to either Eurocore or Blue Dragons so it can authentically be PAC-1, but Eugen seems bent on giving the US as much bad rep for stragery as possible.

Less of them (one card, not two) plus making them a few paces slower would go a long way to making them less prevalent on the battlefield.

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Re: On Patriot again ...

Postby Shrike » Sat 1 Nov 2014 18:27

I say throw it into the void were it will remain forgotten.

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Postby SKLKNKR » Sat 1 Nov 2014 18:28

Shrike wrote:I say throw it into the void were it will remain forgotten.


You mean naval?
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Re: On Patriot again ...

Postby another505 » Sat 1 Nov 2014 18:29

YES YES , and then take back the Tomcat for compensation
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Re: On Patriot again ...

Postby Solo » Sat 1 Nov 2014 18:39

I am...okay with this. Just buff I-HAWK PIP III to 65% acc to match Buk, NEWA, and Kub.

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Re: On Patriot again ...

Postby KattiValk » Sat 1 Nov 2014 18:41

another505 wrote:YES YES , and then take back the Tomcat for compensation
I like this idea.

Solo wrote:I am...okay with this. Just buff I-HAWK PIP III to 65% acc to match Buk, NEWA, and Kub.
Also, buff the price. I don't see the the HAWK inching along at its slower than infantry speed with 10 HP.

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Re: On Patriot again ...

Postby fatfluffycat » Sat 1 Nov 2014 18:48

SKLKNKR wrote:
Shrike wrote:I say throw it into the void were it will remain forgotten.


You mean naval?


YES YES , and then take back the Tomcat for compensation


I think that's a good trade....
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