FoxZz wrote:cramble wrote:Why is everybody going away from the subject ?
If it was up to me i would choose Tow infantry above the Patriot. (not going to discus the patriot here.)
But lets be fair this has bin discussed so many times before and i didn't find a real reason why this isn't in game, okay its heavy but lets face it most ATGMs are they mostly are moved by vehicle to the front lines then moved up closer and not really used as a offensive weapon, more as a defensive weapon.
Most TOW armed vehicles have bipod with them for them to mount it off and place it concealed for defensive times. Wen in offence they are mostly mounted on the vehicles designed for this weapon system.
Here is a picture of infantry running with a tow launcher and ammo in a operation training for the Allied Command Europe Mobile Force operation called Avenue Express in 1989.
This picture shows the Dutch Marines Whiskey Infanterie Compagnie (WINFCIE) and the Tweede Amfibische Gevechtsgroep (2-AGGP).
I just found this other picture with the same guys but the standing hold with the Tow weapon in there hands.
More pictures about this operation you can find on this site:
ATGMS carried by footmobiles are used very often in an offensive role when the terrain doesn't allow the use of vehicles. If the system needs a vehicle to be moved, than it doesn't belong to the infantry section.
For instance, in Afghanistan Milan teams had to climb the moutain by foot to set up a fire position on the ridge and cover the valley, then, they had to follow the advance of troops. Milan systems were also droped with airborne troops in Mali.
A Milan team climbing the moutain.
A Milan team changing position.
As you can see, Tow and Milan missiles are not equal when it comes to moving with your foots.
You can't climb a moutain or march during several days with a Tow system, it's way to heavy.
Tow missiles are the equivalent of HOT missiles, they are are carried by vehicles and choppers and that's it.
And about the Mistral teams, Mistral are man portable, one guy carries the tripod, the other the missile.
This breaks my heart to think someone really believes this... no ATGM unit can march for days with it.... not unless its a tiny one like an SRAW or something.... and you're contradicting yourself with the Mistral. With TOW teams, one man also carries the tripid, one man carries the launch tube, and the rest carry missiles....