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Re: US TOW Infantry

Postby Chosimba » Tue 14 Oct 2014 21:26

Bullfrog wrote:
Mako wrote:
.... happy.... patriot.... instead.

:?


You should be happy that you got a unit that everyone can bitch about and claim that USA should never get another unit it had in real life (being the absolute powerhouse it was in real life) because of that single unit while there are plenty of flaws in the rest of their deck. Because one unit invalidates every suggestion ever.

I hope you get my sarcasm.

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Re: US TOW Infantry

Postby keebs63 » Tue 14 Oct 2014 21:27

Add Javelin like any normal ATGM, just have it shoot straight at the frontal armor, realism be damned
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Re: US TOW Infantry

Postby Chosimba » Tue 14 Oct 2014 21:29

keebs63 wrote:Add Javelin like any normal ATGM, just have it shoot straight at the frontal armor, realism be damned


RBS 56 already does that, it's not about realism being damned, its that Eugen can't be assed to actually work.

Also it'd cost about 36 gorillion monopoly money to pay someone for the model of the Javelin

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Re: US TOW Infantry

Postby keebs63 » Tue 14 Oct 2014 21:31

Chosimba wrote:
keebs63 wrote:Add Javelin like any normal ATGM, just have it shoot straight at the frontal armor, realism be damned


RBS 56 already does that, it's not about realism being damned, its that Eugen can't be assed to actually work.

Also it'd cost about 36 gorillion monopoly money to pay someone for the model of the Javelin

Like anyone will even be able to see it outside of the armory :roll: just replace it with a model that looks sorta like it. I think Eryx model may fit the bill?
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Re: US TOW Infantry

Postby Sharkey Ward » Tue 14 Oct 2014 21:31

keebs63 wrote:realism be damned


No

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Re: US TOW Infantry

Postby keebs63 » Tue 14 Oct 2014 21:33

Sharkey Ward wrote:
keebs63 wrote:realism be damned


No

I cannot explain to you how many unrealistic things there are in this game....
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Re: US TOW Infantry

Postby Mako » Tue 14 Oct 2014 21:39

Javelin would take about an hour tops to model, or you could just use the APILAS model and nobody would notice :lol:


Weapons can also be given a top attack trait, or just increased AP like RBS 56.


Like TOW systems it's very easy to add in.
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Re: US TOW Infantry

Postby Muppet » Tue 14 Oct 2014 21:41

What Eugen said:
Infantry carried TOWs/HJ-8: To heavy
Kornet and Javelin: Post Cold War developments
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Re: US TOW Infantry

Postby Grabbed_by_the_Spets » Tue 14 Oct 2014 22:19

Mako wrote:It's entirely reasonable to make them a five man squad with 15kph speed, and only give them I-TOW or even just basic TOW and give them to ANZAC, USA, Norway and Canada and then give the HJ-8 to China... but it's been denied and won't happen, for whatever reasons.


Then you get the problem of the original Wargame and ALB, where alot of the times tanks will fail a battle which they should have one because they got the upper hand. There's also the problem where 5 man ATGM teams make the 2 man teams completely irrelevent. Which is why Eugen got rid of 5 man Milan and Konkurs teams.


Just be happy we got the patriot instead.


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Bullfrog wrote:Weight seems like a pretty irrelevant factor in rather it should be implemented or not.


It is but it's the excuse that seems to be spouted the most. Kind of like how people think the Javelin atgm shouldn't be in because it's top attack, meanwhile the RBS 56 bill already does that.

If you want to argue whether it's balanced or not, go for it, I could care less. But when your reasons for not including it are hypocritical based on stuff that's already in game (javelin example fits this) then it's a problem.



The Javlin wasn't added due to it being 3-4 years OOTF, not because it was top attack. Going by you're logic US shouldn't have and Hellfire missiles either...
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Re: US TOW Infantry

Postby Firepower » Tue 14 Oct 2014 22:25

Eugen's reasoning is kind of silly, especially when you consider that all infantry in this game is either mechanized, motorized, or air lifted. A squad of 5 people could carry a TOW especially if you had a vehicle to ride around in. One guy with the tripod, one with the launcher, the rest carry the ammo. The TOW ingame isn't even that impressive of a system. 50% accuracy and 15ap, not OP by any means.

I think it would be worth implementing, a lot of minors don't have any ATGM infantry at all.

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