last night i am fuious :evil:

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last night i am fuious :evil:

Postby 123aser123 » Sat 18 Oct 2014 03:26

WTF?

last night play make me fuious :evil:

i played Deutche Amror deck all the time, this is the first time i realized that
TORNADO IDS is totally a bomber for noobs and idiots.

for map Tropic Jungle and Wosan Harbor, basically you don't have much counter ways to against infantry in masive city.
the arty is reacting too slow, too expensive and not fit the blitzkrieg style
or using the pantzergenadiers, have a meat consumption
only big bomber TORNADO IDS for western german deck can take damage to enemy infantry in town.

which last night, the TORNADO IDS failed its function totally.
i played about 200 matchs by now, my oppoent is name xxxxxxxx[fr] he played 700 matches shown in his profile.
he has more experience, outplayed me, not that is not what i say.
when the match is open, he was using China deck, put commando infantry 4 unit maybe into middle island town.
i flank rush him by tank, failed.

then i try to grab middle by infantry. which problem is coming.
pantzergenadiers who supposed to be strong and have a stand with anything fail.
pantzergenadiers vanished like a puff in 1 or 2 seconds.( he is using 4 LI JIAN 90 NAPLM against my for 4 PGs and 5$ reservists)
the island town is too far to reinforcement, it is total impossible to take it, especally when our enemy has a naplm commando and laser guided bomber.

urr, sigh

i was total freaking out. sending bombers to save a day.
NO, NO them failed too.
urr, sigh

the red little men dodged bombs like rabbits, one bomber can do nothing, even noob can see it
no, my bombers was different than other ones.
my bombers, they used to be pin point accuracy to decimate any infantry in anywhere even tanks running on the road.
because with my smart brain, was smart, delicate micro, i changed their aviation line and bombing position manually very frequent all the time on the fly.
but it did no damage last night, maybe a little scratch.

i furiously brought 3 bombers to make any kills.
no
usually the rabbits can hop 1 block, last night, them can do 2 block, (maybe he was in french hisping is 9ms mine is 500ms? that is not trouble)
the trouble is the bombs dropping speed is toooooooooooooo slow.
the commadoes can do another hopping and relax have a drink and hopping away again.

i was frustrated, exhausted, sat back, gave some profanity words, and sigh to my glorious DE amror deck.
i understood that i can never win this battle, i surrendered early.

nevertheless, frustrated story didn't end so.
i cannot quit because of the crash of game in the middle. (no sound but still can play, but no replay can save)
the crash of game may because of win8.1 i don't konw, other people talked about similar situation too.
it is still not fixed.

so i don't have a replay to study what is going on last night.

limited conclusion is
1.German armor deck has nothing to counter infantry in town.
2.Remove TORNADO IDS from my deck, it is useless, for noob yes it is useful,
3.AA ROLAND 3 is too vulnerable for SEAD planes, nothing can do about against a SEAD plane and ATGM plane and Ka50 and Ka52 combination.
4.if there is not decent way to play blitzkrieg, there will be like two elephant seal bumping eachother (like i comment in some youtube video for wrd replay) it is not cool, i don't like this game anymore and game experience too.
too much lagging, too much crash.

furious.
plz fix it.

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Re: last night i am fuious :evil:

Postby Regnar » Sat 18 Oct 2014 03:30

I've spent the last two minutes trying to come up with a smug, sarcastic and condescending way to say this and haven't been successful, but here it is anyway:

You have the most overpowered armored infantry in the game
You have no right to complain
You should practice more

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Postby k0m1ssar » Sat 18 Oct 2014 03:36

My brain hurts after trying to read this post.

To answer your question
1. Yes you do have counters to SF infantries in town, they are called Marders and M48s (yes, those cheap tanks).
2. Tornado IDS is one of the worst sufferers of multirole syndrome. Its mediocre bomb load should really be increased considering its price tag.
3. No shit Sherlock! This happens when SEAD outranges AAs by far. Since F-4 KWS is pretty meh, West Germany really suffers against air units. My advice: ask teammates to bring long-range AAs for you.
4. There is a good way to play Blitzkrieg, it's called EuroCorps Armored.

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Postby fatfluffycat » Sat 18 Oct 2014 03:38

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Postby Countess Bathory » Sat 18 Oct 2014 04:00

Have we seriously got a guy complaining that Panzergrenadiere 90 are underpowered?
That he lost on a urban focused map whilst playing an armoured deck to a guy playing as China?

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Postby fatfluffycat » Sat 18 Oct 2014 04:03

Countess Bathory wrote:Have we seriously got a guy complaining that Panzergrenadiere 90 are underpowered?
That he lost on a urban focused map whilst playing an armoured deck to a guy playing as China?

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His mind is just in disarray...

West Germany Deck......


........beaten?
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Re: last night i am fuious :evil:

Postby icehawk308 » Sat 18 Oct 2014 04:30

fatfluffycat wrote:
Countess Bathory wrote:Have we seriously got a guy complaining that Panzergrenadiere 90 are underpowered?
That he lost on a urban focused map whilst playing an armoured deck to a guy playing as China?

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His mind is just in disarray...

West Germany Deck......


........beaten?


That pretty much summarises all the responses to the OP.

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Re: last night i am fuious :evil:

Postby 123aser123 » Sat 18 Oct 2014 04:48

k0m1ssar wrote:1. Yes you do have counters to SF infantries in town, they are called Marders and M48s (yes, those cheap tanks).


how about M113 with machine gun, they are cheaper just cost 5 bucks each still one cost 1 rpg of SF?
don't forget red team also have air support, you cannot fight them

if a armor deck infantry cannot win a city war.
and if its AAs cannot fight against SEAD and ATGM, competent to protect their tanks.
and has bad recon
no heli support.
no decent airplane
the super vulnerable middle range AA

it is all true to a german armor deck.
eugen leaves only 1 way
it has to rush to death in first 5 min either win or rush to kill enemy spawning point if its opponent is a real player (not a noob).

but some map there is no way to let tank to rush flank.
and the companion AAs died under SEAD attack or cannot open its radar, either way it is total useless.
if a AA cannot protect its high end tank Leopard 2A5 for this case, it is total useless.
the story ends

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Postby WalrusWithAHat » Sat 18 Oct 2014 04:59

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Postby Zer0 » Sat 18 Oct 2014 05:03

123aser123 wrote:if a armor deck infantry cannot win a city war.
if a AA cannot protect its high end tank Leopard 2A5 for this case, it is total useless.
the story ends


Which part of "armored deck"made you think it'll fight well in cities?

AA net is not guaranteed safety, as a matter of fact, nothing is.
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