Vysadkari/Spado '90 buffs

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Re: Vysadkari/Spado '90 buffs

Postby MILINTarctrooper » Fri 13 Feb 2015 06:45

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Would that conflict with the LSTR-40? in an NWSP deck match up?

I mean too many Vampyr could make for a AT lock out rush. It has 825m range. And in many cases LSTR-40 are capable of ninja potshot even superheavies into submission.

I am not against it...it just feels like it might start an arms race for rebalance in the AT department. Especially when you might have two units that you could rush either by land or air to stop vehicle movement on a city or forested area.

Just saying.
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Re: Vysadkari/Spado '90 buffs

Postby Mister Maf » Fri 13 Feb 2015 06:48

What I don't understand is why the Polish paratroopers '75 cost 15 points, yet the marines cost 25. They are identical units save for the 5 extra men - an upgrade that traditionally is worth only 5 points. Polish marines should therefore only cost 20 points.
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Re: Vysadkari/Spado '90 buffs

Postby codextero » Fri 13 Feb 2015 06:53

Mister Maf wrote:What I don't understand is why the Polish paratroopers '75 cost 15 points, yet the marines cost 25. They are identical units save for the 5 extra men - an upgrade that traditionally is worth only 5 points. Polish marines should therefore only cost 20 points.


They did cost 20 points until Eugen nerfed them in DLC 3

In all honesty they were too good at 20 points, but make them Morskaya Pehota clones and there.

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Re: Vysadkari/Spado '90 buffs

Postby bepphone » Fri 13 Feb 2015 07:09

Definitely would be happy to see more RPG-26 in the CZ deck. RPG-29 even moreso, but I actually get the feeling that might be too good

NSWP cannot into nice things
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Re: Vysadkari/Spado '90 buffs

Postby raventhefuhrer » Fri 13 Feb 2015 07:10

MILINTarctrooper wrote:I mean too many Vampyr could make for a AT lock out rush. It has 825m range. And in many cases LSTR-40 are capable of ninja potshot even superheavies into submission.


Meh.

USSR can already do that with VDV and it's not a problem.

Codextero wrote:In all honesty they were too good at 20 points, but make them Morskaya Pehota clones and there.


They're already Morskaya clones. And both of them blow.
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Re: Vysadkari/Spado '90 buffs

Postby CornProducts » Fri 13 Feb 2015 07:14

Mister Maf wrote:What I don't understand is why the Polish paratroopers '75 cost 15 points, yet the marines cost 25. They are identical units save for the 5 extra men - an upgrade that traditionally is worth only 5 points. Polish marines should therefore only cost 20 points.


They used to cost 20 points... :? That change must have slipped through the cracks for me.

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Would that conflict with the LSTR-40? in an NWSP deck match up?



You've got a point. It is the premiere AT launcher, having everything but 20 rpm. It really shouldn't be all over the place. I dunno what to say other than its okay for REDFOR to have nice things once in a while.
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Re: Vysadkari/Spado '90 buffs

Postby Mike » Fri 13 Feb 2015 07:32

Give Czechoslovakia the RPG-29, Poland the RPG-26 and all NSWP and USSR Marines should get better ones too. Stilling using the RPG-7V in 1990 is crap.
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Re: Vysadkari/Spado '90 buffs

Postby QUAD » Fri 13 Feb 2015 08:20

Vampyr shock troops in motorized transports might be a bit much, though really I don't care because Czech Master Race.
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Re: Vysadkari/Spado '90 buffs

Postby Hollywood Myth » Fri 13 Feb 2015 08:36

Give Poland the RPG-29. 26 is already carried by a CZ squad so they would effectively get both.
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Re: Vysadkari/Spado '90 buffs

Postby codextero » Fri 13 Feb 2015 09:02

raventhefuhrer wrote:
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Codextero wrote:In all honesty they were too good at 20 points, but make them Morskaya Pehota clones and there.


They're already Morskaya clones. And both of them blow.


Derp, i thought Morskaya had RPG-7V (THEY DID IN ALB), and Niebskie had RPG-7.

It's not just morskaya and Niebskie that blow, all the 15 man marine 75's blow.

Haebyung are the worst, LAW and M60 shorty, literally worse than 2 riflemen
Jeogockdae are a bit better with RPG-7 and slightly better RPD
Morskaya, Luzhandui, and Niebskie have bad AT but are blessed with RPK's
US marines are the best of the lot.

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