Nerf the gun on Mig-27 series

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Re: Nerf the gun on Mig-27 series

Postby Mike » Wed 29 Apr 2015 21:20

Well everything has its ranged tweeked for game play purposes.
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Re: Nerf the gun on Mig-27 series

Postby wargamer1985 » Wed 29 Apr 2015 22:42

Mako wrote:
Also, the GAU-8 is actually quite well represented


lol

Yeah 2800m of range makes sense :lol: :lol: :lol:

Well, besides that of course. But its maximum effective range is not *that* far off at ~2km
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Re: Nerf the gun on Mig-27 series

Postby keebs63 » Wed 29 Apr 2015 23:20

You really want all plane mounted guns to have 1,200m range?
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Re: Nerf the gun on Mig-27 series

Postby Guggy » Wed 29 Apr 2015 23:54

Thats 1.8 miles. Thats definitely within the GAU-8's range envelope, if DCS is any indication. Just depends on the target you're engaging to determine the optimum fire distance. For trucks etc, 1.8 miles is fine.

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Re: Nerf the gun on Mig-27 series

Postby Mako » Thu 30 Apr 2015 00:49

wargamer1985 wrote:
Mako wrote:
Also, the GAU-8 is actually quite well represented


lol

Yeah 2800m of range makes sense :lol: :lol: :lol:

Well, besides that of course. But its maximum effective range is not *that* far off at ~2km


It's not 20% less than its mavericks.
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Re: Nerf the gun on Mig-27 series

Postby Xeno426 » Thu 30 Apr 2015 04:26

another505 wrote:the gau 8 is pretty inaccurate, even in test environment on stationary targets, it spills like 100 rounds for 0-8 hits? iirc, so quite hard to hit the weak spots

It was good enough a beam shot against an Mi-24 at 12,000ft slant range with a 1-second burst resulted in 15 rounds hitting the target. Given that tanks are engaged at typically closer range, that's still quite a few rounds hitting.

Curiously, with "Combat Mix"—a mix of both API and HEI rounds in a 4:1 ratio—the different aerodynamics of the two rounds means that at 12,000ft slant range, the HEI rounds will fall 5.36 mils short and 1.6 mils to the right of the API impacts, and also arrive one second after the API.

Mako wrote:It's not 20% less than its mavericks.

Not a good comparison. The M61A1's effective range isn't 40% the range of the AIM-120.
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Re: Nerf the gun on Mig-27 series

Postby GARGEAN » Thu 30 Apr 2015 14:37

Xeno426 wrote:
Xeno426 wrote:It's not 20% less than its mavericks.

Not a good comparison. The M61A1's effective range isn't 40% the range of the AIM-120.

Indeed. And R-37 in not 100% comparable in range with AIM-54A.

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Re: Nerf the gun on Mig-27 series

Postby stratmania » Thu 30 Apr 2015 15:28

GARGEAN wrote:
Xeno426 wrote:
Xeno426 wrote:It's not 20% less than its mavericks.

Not a good comparison. The M61A1's effective range isn't 40% the range of the AIM-120.

Indeed. And R-37 in not 100% comparable in range with AIM-54A.

This again? Dude....

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Re: Nerf the gun on Mig-27 series

Postby GARGEAN » Thu 30 Apr 2015 16:03

stratmania wrote:This again? Dude....

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Re: Nerf the gun on Mig-27 series

Postby wargamer1985 » Thu 30 Apr 2015 16:50

Mako wrote:
wargamer1985 wrote:Well, besides that of course. But its maximum effective range is not *that* far off at ~2km


It's not 20% less than its mavericks.

Then that's the range of the AGM-65's being underrated (among other things), not the GAU-8 having its range overrated.

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