T-64BM vs. Leopard 2A1

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Re: T-64BM vs. Leopard 2A1

Postby terror51247 » Tue 23 Feb 2016 14:37

Azaz3l wrote:I say decrease T-64BM frontal armor and keep the price like it is now.

Its current armor is authentic.
How can anyone play to a faction's strength if the major flavour of that faction is overpriced units in every category?

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Re: T-64BM vs. Leopard 2A1

Postby valk » Tue 23 Feb 2016 14:37

Razzmann wrote:Why do you ask? Did I say it's fine?



Just want to say that if bluefor has better 60pts tanks, why redfor cannot have better 85pt tanks.

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Re: T-64BM vs. Leopard 2A1

Postby Markenzwieback » Tue 23 Feb 2016 14:41

valk wrote:
Razzmann wrote:Why do you ask? Did I say it's fine?



Just want to say that if bluefor has better 60pts tanks, why redfor cannot have better 85pt tanks.

So two wrongs also make a right?
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Re: T-64BM vs. Leopard 2A1

Postby chykka » Tue 23 Feb 2016 14:42

BM is a little too cheap at it's range, but Soviet has lots of other great options. In the Tank line ups there usually there will be one or two a tree that were neglected. But I don't think 2a1 deserves a price change where it is.
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Re: T-64BM vs. Leopard 2A1

Postby Azaz3l » Tue 23 Feb 2016 14:43

terror51247 wrote:
Azaz3l wrote:I say decrease T-64BM frontal armor and keep the price like it is now.

Its current armor is authentic.

How so? It was literally a T-64B with 1000 hp diesel

EDIT: Okay, apparently it received a new and better armored turret. But is it really worth +3 AV compared to T-64B?
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Re: T-64BM vs. Leopard 2A1

Postby chykka » Tue 23 Feb 2016 14:45

yeah the autonomy makes me wonder, tanks leaning soviet between these two comparison .
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Re: T-64BM vs. Leopard 2A1

Postby valk » Tue 23 Feb 2016 14:46

Markenzwieback wrote:
valk wrote:
Razzmann wrote:Why do you ask? Did I say it's fine?



Just want to say that if bluefor has better 60pts tanks, why redfor cannot have better 85pt tanks.

So two wrongs also make a right?


Generally I think that we need more OP units. Who needs tons of impersonal units with the same stats?

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Re: T-64BM vs. Leopard 2A1

Postby molnibalage » Tue 23 Feb 2016 14:54

Basil_pup wrote:"- Soviet T-64BM range increased by 175m (a 10$ price nerf have been forgotten here)"
From patch log.
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And what about avail nerf to the same level what Leo2A1 has? Or increasing the avail on Leo2A1? What is the base avail of M1A1? As I can remember not 0/4/3/0/0 but 0/6/4/0/0 even it is 15 pts more expensive than Leo2A1...

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Re: T-64BM vs. Leopard 2A1

Postby terror51247 » Tue 23 Feb 2016 14:57

Azaz3l wrote:
terror51247 wrote:
Azaz3l wrote:I say decrease T-64BM frontal armor and keep the price like it is now.

Its current armor is authentic.

How so? It was literally a T-64B with 1000 hp diesel

EDIT: Okay, apparently it received a new and better armored turret. But is it really worth +3 AV compared to T-64B?

t64b's armor is too weak.BTW thats seems to be late production series t64b which are better armored(500mmvsKe in the turret/410mm vs KE in the hull)
http://btvt.narod.ru/4/t-64.htm
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Re: T-64BM vs. Leopard 2A1

Postby molnibalage » Tue 23 Feb 2016 15:12

valk wrote:Don't touch T64BM. USSR finally can into tank fight. All what we need just remove ATGM and make it 85 pts.

This post wanted to be some kind of joke? USSR tanks generally beat the crap for bluefor tanks... Especially in armored deck and long range engagement with ATGM/gun swap. Any bleufor tanks below 14 FAV is a joke because USSR tanks up from 65CP with 21-22AP HEAT ATGM almost one shot kill any bluefor med tank with paper armor.

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