Forget new nations, when can we get an RD multiplayer campaign?

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Forget new nations, when can we get an RD multiplayer campaign?

Postby MarcoRossolini » Wed 18 May 2016 13:34

Myself and a mate love Wargame. Finding multiplayer not to our liking (we just aren't any good and RD isn't cold war anyway), we've had endless fun with the ALB MP campaign and are on to our 4th Soviet playthrough, soon to be followed by a 5th NATO one.

We recently got back into Wargame for these campaigns and it was a happy coincidence that we saw the thread on some super secret wargame news.

Could it be a new Wargame?

Could it be major additions to RD?

No.

Just another ****ing faction we can't play because we care not one whit for multiplayer. The RD campaigns have absolutely awesome potential, but despite prior to release there being MP coop campaigns advertised, 2 years on it still has failed to materialize. Now major additions to the game are being billed and once they are revealed all we get is a faction which will be roughly similar to everything else and once again ensure that we cannot play Red Dragon the way we'd like to (i.e. not by ourselves or against multiplayer heroes who kick our arses) and how it was originally advertised. What is more, the exciting things this is meant to be financing are a bunch of balance patches (we're coop players, who cares about balance?) and "content" (which could be anything).

ALB is getting stale, we're casting our eyes over to Red Dragon and all we see is stuff catering to the multiplayer crowd who beat us with out of timescale prototypes (we play wargame for the Cold War, sorry) and other silly min/maxing rubbish.

Sorry guys, but we had our hopes up with the promise of wargame news and all we see for it is a faction which promises nothing of what we're like to see and what was advertised prior to release that we have a strong interest in playing.

We'd be happy to support what would seem to lead toward a cooperative campaign, but other than that, all we can do is just shrug our shoulders.
We were interested in W:RD for a time period and game mode which we greatly enjoyed in ALB. Yet we've been left out in the cold despite prior to release the promise of a cooperative campaign. I for one don't feel that is acceptable.

Forgive my anger, but myself and my friend are extremely disappointed by this.

(stand by for the MP hero train to tell us we're noobs who don't deserve to play the game we saw as promised)

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Re: Forget new nations, when can we get an RD multiplayer campaign?

Postby captaincarnage » Wed 18 May 2016 13:43

I think most people who play this game a lot play multiplayer so you're more likely to get money from them than you are from people who only want to play singleplayer.

Also its probably more expensive to create another single player campaign than it is to create a new nation.

A multiplayer campaign would be harder still to implement i expect, as the RD campaigns have heavily scripted AI.
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Re: Forget new nations, when can we get an RD multiplayer campaign?

Postby Hartmann » Wed 18 May 2016 15:00

Heh, can you imagine if the big announcement they teased would have been a new SP campaign and/or coop.

Would've been hilarious.

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Re: Forget new nations, when can we get an RD multiplayer campaign?

Postby deadnation » Wed 18 May 2016 17:09

I will be surprised if next wargame have campaign at all. And as i understand the community really doesn't like campaigns of rd and alb. Wee campaign was good, but alb and rd campaigns were bad and it felt like AI cheated all the time. I had some fun playing alb campaign in coop, but it was still bad coop campaign for strategy game.

I would rather have them leave hole campaign part of wargames out and spend that money to have better/more maps and to improve current mechanics.

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Re: Forget new nations, when can we get an RD multiplayer campaign?

Postby molnibalage » Thu 19 May 2016 09:57

deadnation wrote:I will be surprised if next wargame have campaign at all. And as i understand the community really doesn't like campaigns of rd and alb. Wee campaign was good, but alb and rd campaigns were bad and it felt like AI cheated all the time. I had some fun playing alb campaign in coop, but it was still bad coop campaign for strategy game.

I would rather have them leave hole campaign part of wargames out and spend that money to have better/more maps and to improve current mechanics.

I loved both - except the stupid AI - and always asked why is not avail multiplayer campaigns moreover, with campaign editor.

A campaign would bring more elements into game.

1. Time factor, within 20 min you have to achive progress.
2. Long term thinking. If you loose some of your units they won't be available in next battle unless you get reinforcements. I

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Re: Forget new nations, when can we get an RD multiplayer campaign?

Postby Sunshine » Thu 19 May 2016 12:56

*sigh*
Some people...

"Just a new nation"
Good job not understanding the point of this DLC - and how it may affect Wargame in the future. :roll:
Oh and yes, coop campaign... because everyone so totally wants to experience the crappy AI... with friends...
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Re: Forget new nations, when can we get an RD multiplayer campaign?

Postby MarcoRossolini » Thu 19 May 2016 14:15

Sunshine wrote:*sigh*
Some people...

"Just a new nation"
Good job not understanding the point of this DLC - and how it may affect Wargame in the future. :roll:
Oh and yes, coop campaign... because everyone so totally wants to experience the crappy AI... with friends...


Terribly sorry I enjoy the game differently to you.

Sorry, after 2 years and not a word on coop campaigns it's hard to be very interesting some new nation.

Glad some others enjoyed coop. Couldn't really care about crappy AI when you're playing with friends. If the AI is like ALB's then we'd be happy enough.

As for the cheating AI, that's part of the challenge. :)

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Re: Forget new nations, when can we get an RD multiplayer campaign?

Postby molnibalage » Thu 19 May 2016 15:25

Sunshine wrote:*sigh*
Some people...

"Just a new nation"
Good job not understanding the point of this DLC - and how it may affect Wargame in the future. :roll:
Oh and yes, coop campaign... because everyone so totally wants to experience the crappy AI... with friends...

I said not coop campaing, I said mutiplayer campaign...

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Re: Forget new nations, when can we get an RD multiplayer campaign?

Postby DasaKamov » Thu 19 May 2016 16:12

MarcoRossolini wrote:t despite prior to release there being MP coop campaigns advertised, 2 years on it still has failed to materialize.

As someone who Beta-Tested Red Dragon, I'll point out that Eugen never stated that Co-Op MP Campaigns would be reality -- only that they would like it to be so if possible. Before the game was commercially released, they announced that, due to the way the Campaign scripting worked, Multiplayer was not a possibility. I'm not sure when you purchased Red Dragon, but "MP Campaigns" was never an advertisement on the box, so to speak.
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Re: Forget new nations, when can we get an RD multiplayer campaign?

Postby lordofkaha » Thu 19 May 2016 18:24

Sunshine wrote:*sigh*
Good job not understanding the point of this DLC - and how it may affect Wargame in the future. :roll:
Oh and yes, coop campaign... because everyone so totally wants to experience the crappy AI... with friends...


That's why my buddies and I don't have, each, about 1000 hours on the 3 Wargames mostly in MP coop.

Please state facts not just what you think is real. Only Eugen can come up with the number of games played in PVE or PVP.

I had 3 buddies on ALB we each played all the campaigns with one another. The coop campaign was a lot of fun and I still don't understand why it doesn't exist with you buddy being inactive in the strat map and active on the tactical. But that's just me.

I'm voting for it but I still understand and understand why it won't happen

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