We're missing the Hashtags for DutchGerman Corps as well as the hashtags for SOVKOR/LANDJUT/NORAD
1) You are ignoring the TGMs in your equation. In particular the T-64BV bringing a 22AP stabilized missile that can easily turn the situation on a Leopard 2A4 and utterly annihilates common BLUFOR high-end tanks in mechanized.
T-64BVI, Chally 1 MK2 and T-72S1 have no TGMs
T-80BV and T-64BMs cobra are meh at best
I honestly don't care if the BV is included, its atgm is an outlier that overperforms in that price bracket you're right, it's also the reason I'm not even arguing about T-80A with its refleks.
But you're welcome to put forward your arguments vs adding the other 5 tanks I mentioned
Saying an agona turns the tide on a leo 2a4 is funny, it's something that actually gives it a fighting chance and justifies the 120 points cost on the BV, but if you don't hit the first missile (which is a 50/50 chance) then you're pretty much screwed, if you do hit, then it's still a 50/50 chance of which tank would win based on who gets screwed less with RNG.
Markenzwieback wrote:2) Lets look into the broader deck situation regarding mechanized: Running with Leopard 2A1 and M1A1 against T-72S1 or even the T-64BV (if your proposal gets accepted) isn't close to a fair fight
First time I would hear that infantry selection is relevant to which tanks get allowed into mechanized, please provide the appropriate quote.
If you were able to fight a T-64BV for 120 points head on by sending a Leo2A1 which costs only 100 points then something would really be screwed up with the balance of the game.
M1A1 vs BV, well it's a coin toss between hitting or not hitting that 1 agona and then it's a question who starts running first. Since their main guns are pretty evenly balanced 2 HP per hit vs 2.5 HP per hit and a 15% accuracy difference, but Abrams has an advantage the moment one of the two starts retreating. I see no issue, esp since the BV is more expensive by 5 points so some advantage has to exist, otherwise they should have the same price
3) The M1A1HA is currently overpriced and already pretty much confirmed to go down by at least -5 points. viewtopic.php?p=934658#p934658
. But lets exclude that tank from our argument and focus on the Leopard 2A4.
Even if it goes to 135 pts, it's still 15 points, so over 10% more expensive than the highest cutoff point for mechanized tanks, so even then it will never be relevant to these considerations